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Wow-Hackers tried to penetrate South Carolina's voter-registration system 150,000 times-Election Day (Original Post) kpete Jul 2017 OP
400-lb guy with very fast fingers sitting on their bed dalton99a Jul 2017 #1
Here's an idea tech3149 Jul 2017 #2
+1,000,000 Amaryllis Jul 2017 #13
But no one tampered with vote totals... Zoonart Jul 2017 #3
+1 YCHDT Jul 2017 #4
Shhhhhh..... SoCalMusicLover Jul 2017 #5
I remember way back when I was a teen. My dad was a Republican in the south. Hence a liberal. LiberalArkie Jul 2017 #6
Voter registration isn't the same as vote counting mythology Jul 2017 #8
That is not a valid argument. You can't count their votes if they were prevented Amaryllis Jul 2017 #14
Election Results Officially Look Invalid After Voting Machine Hack Confirmed Across 39 States Amaryllis Jul 2017 #15
Yeah, he still "won" despite losing by 10 million votes. DK504 Jul 2017 #7
You "know" that votes were flipped just like Trump "knows" he actually won the popular vote mythology Jul 2017 #9
See reply #15. THere is lots of evidence for those who choose to look. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #16
there is equal evidence that the votes *weren't* flipped - zero. it is your choice to believe that TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #18
to easy to change a persons voter registration to disenfranchise them. Can't catch ANY of 150K??? Sunlei Jul 2017 #10
precisely; some claim that hacking is "too risky," and the hackers would quickly, easily be caught. TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #19
I remember malware was "removed" from Ukraines vote tallymachines? It changed vote/self-uninstalled. Sunlei Jul 2017 #25
And hubby and I lived there and voted Corgigal Jul 2017 #11
Which begs the question LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #12
R32 & K UTUSN Jul 2017 #17
150,000 times the vote may have been changed electronically UCmeNdc Jul 2017 #20
But by Election Day the rolls are closed and the books used in the precincts are printed and out Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #21
This was the first year here in TN where I voted Lars39 Jul 2017 #22
Even then it would have been on copies finalized weeks ago Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #23
Weren't laptops. Lars39 Jul 2017 #24
Voters could still have been turned away for their info not matching up, Lars39 Jul 2017 #28
That is a good point. How many states for the first time, had voter verification on computer, not pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #26
Like many southern states S.C. has large % of black voters. Botany Jul 2017 #27

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
2. Here's an idea
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jul 2017

Don't just take the whole electoral process "off the grid" but put it out there for all the public to observe and understand. Any of us who have been concerned and vocal about election integrity since 2000 have been screaming about a serious rethink but no dominant media wanted to talk about it.
Democrats have religiously avoided the problems of the electoral anomalies of the past 17 years on the basis that it would discourage the electorate from being involved.
Well guess what, if you don't point out the problem or offer a solution you will always be the ineffective opposition.
How does it feel being the Washington Generals?

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
5. Shhhhhh.....
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jul 2017

They don't want you to talk about that. It undermines the entire political system if people actually were to realize their vote is pointless and can be changed at the whim of some higher power.

Remember, the powers that be MUST maintain the air of Democracy and legitimacy of the election process and vote tabulation.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
6. I remember way back when I was a teen. My dad was a Republican in the south. Hence a liberal.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

Like any towns back in the 60's there were black precincts and white precincts. Not like now where everything is equal. The blacks wanted a certain candidate for sheriff and the redneck Democrats wanted the current guy who was know to kill and send to county road crew anyone not white.

Well it was known that the black precinct would vote for the new guy. But com Election Day and ballot were counted at the court house the new guy did not have a ballot any where cast for him.

American Democracy at its finest.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
14. That is not a valid argument. You can't count their votes if they were prevented
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jul 2017

from voting in the first place, so you don't have to change the vote totals to affect the results.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
7. Yeah, he still "won" despite losing by 10 million votes.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:44 PM
Jul 2017

The fact remains we, our fundamental right, one of the few things we can do without an armed revolution, our democracy was attacked. This was a digital act of war. This isn't just a story, it is a fact and I want to know what those traitors in DC are doing to lock down our voting system. We don't need "patches" to "fix" they system, we need a completely different system that can not be breached.

A presidential election is now so vital to our freedoms, civil rights and ability to even squeak out a living must now become a federal, not a state, run process that can not be breached. Has this happened before, we know that votes can and have been flipped, now, now is the time to fight and refuse compromise on the mealy mouth no chin bullshiters that have subverted our future.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. You "know" that votes were flipped just like Trump "knows" he actually won the popular vote
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jul 2017

There is still zero evidence for either claim.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
18. there is equal evidence that the votes *weren't* flipped - zero. it is your choice to believe that
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 04:01 AM
Jul 2017

that is not a problem. many of us want voting systems that are proven secure and transparent, *before* they are allowed to be used. the burden of proof should not be on citizens to prove that electronic voting machines are inaccurate, especially when the citizens are not allowed access to the software or the ballots (if there even are any paper ballots). you may choose to be a faith-based voter; those of us in the reality based world want to see the paper.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. to easy to change a persons voter registration to disenfranchise them. Can't catch ANY of 150K???
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jul 2017

WTF, 150,000 thousand hack attempts AND NO ONE IS CAUGHT?

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
19. precisely; some claim that hacking is "too risky," and the hackers would quickly, easily be caught.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 04:07 AM
Jul 2017

the truth is exactly the opposite; hacking a presidential election is almost risk-free, and given that the presidency of the US is at stake, it is virtually guaranteed that someone will try. the odds that the hack would be discovered, and enough evidence found to track down the perpetrator (s), the case be tried and the perps found guilty, and all before the bogus votes are certified, is as close to zero as you can possibly get.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. I remember malware was "removed" from Ukraines vote tallymachines? It changed vote/self-uninstalled.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:15 AM
Jul 2017

the script changed a vote and self-removed with no trace the malware was even there.

They said the malware was removed before the election vote started. I don't believe it didn't simply re install in some areas, flip some votes & uninstall.

people are very clever with scripts, malwares, Trojans, worms and all sorts of programs that hack computers, phone systems, servers, wifi, modems, browser windows, pictures, icons, logon systems, games, twitter pics, online ad windows...the list goes on and on.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
11. And hubby and I lived there and voted
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:12 PM
Jul 2017

It felt closer then it always shows in the totals.

It doesn't help in the faith dept, but I will stand inline in Kentucky and try again.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
21. But by Election Day the rolls are closed and the books used in the precincts are printed and out
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:19 AM
Jul 2017

Not sure what anyone thinks would have happened. I'm not sure if some of you have even voted before you seem so unfamiliar with how it works.

Once the deadline to register or change registration has passed the county board of elections prints the hard copy books used to verify a voter for each precinct, at that point it's all hard copy.

They could have crashed the entire registration system that day and the net effect would have been nothing.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
22. This was the first year here in TN where I voted
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:28 AM
Jul 2017

that the verification was not a hard copy laying on the table. All computerized.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
23. Even then it would have been on copies finalized weeks ago
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:43 AM
Jul 2017

And the laptops would have been loaded with the data well before Election Day.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
28. Voters could still have been turned away for their info not matching up,
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jul 2017

Or for polling place changed.

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
26. That is a good point. How many states for the first time, had voter verification on computer, not
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jul 2017

paper, first time ever.

Yes, I had forgotten that.

Botany

(70,498 posts)
27. Like many southern states S.C. has large % of black voters.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jul 2017

I think South Carolina is >30% African American.

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