How could they pass a vote to fully repeal the ACA? Wouldn't they then need a 60 vote majority?

[pnwmom]

http://www.newsweek.com/how-hard-repeal-obamacare-433590

Since reconciliation bills cannot be filibustered, any Obamacare repeal bill done using reconciliation wouldn’t need a 60-vote majority to proceed. And debate on a reconciliation bill is limited to 20 hours. For a frustrated Senate that doesn’t have a 60-plus vote filibuster-proof majority, it’s the most potent legislative shortcut imaginable.

But there’s a vital catch: any item in a reconciliation bill must have a measurable, direct impact on federal spending, up or down.

The individual who decides what legislative items do and do not conform to this rule is the Senate parliamentarian—the individual tasked with advising Senate leaders on the interpretation of Senate rules. Appointed by the Senate majority leader whenever the prior parliamentarian steps down, a former Senate librarian clerk named Elizabeth MacDonough currently holds the position.

A full ACA repeal bill would be deemed noncompliant by MacDonough and set aside because so many of its individual provisions do not have a significant budget impact. In a process known as the “Byrd bath,” Senators can challenge any entire bill, section, subsection, paragraph, sentence or word as “out of order,” meaning there is no significant budget impact. Items eliminated by the parliamentarian—called “Byrd droppings”—are removed from the bill.

[grantcart]

1. That is my understanding, its not a budget reconciliation move

[LonePirate]

2. I think they are going to pass it as an amendment to the House bill.

Whether that would allow them to bypass the filibuster rule is another story. Then again, if it does, the House would need to revote and those moderates would be in no mood to vote for it again.

[OnDoutside]

3. Imagine going into the midterms having taken people's healthcare away ?

Very brave ! ie stupid.

[dalton99a]

4. 32 million without insurance, and premiums doubled over 10 years

That's the CBO estimate for the 2015 House bill

[cilla4progress]

5. Ay!

Wish I understood better!

[Igel]

6. The ACA was passed under reconciliation rules.

That's how it could pass in the Senate by a purely partisan vote when (D) didn't have 60 votes.

[SaschaHM]

7. Actually, ACA passed on a vote of 60-39 and was accepted without changed by the House.

Subsequently, changes were introduced to it that were passed using reconciliation.

[krawhitham]

8. only needed 50 in 2015 when it passed 52-47, then vetoed by Obama

[pnwmom]

9. They need a 51 vote majority, except with 50 votes Pence can break the tie. But that's only if

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a vote can pass under reconciliation.

In 2015 they passed a PARTIAL, not a full, repeal of Obamacare. That's what they just failed to do now. To pass a FULL repeal they'd need 60 votes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/the-senate-finally-votes-to-repeal-obamacare/418644/

The measure passed by the Senate on Thursday doesn't actually repeal Obamacare in its entirety. To be able to pass a bill with a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than the filibuster-proof threshold of 60, Republicans needed to use a process known as budget reconciliation, which requires that provisions directly affect the budget. (Democrats used this same process to pass part of the original law in 2010 after Scott Brown’s victory in the Massachusetts Senate race deprived them of their 60th vote.) As such, the bill does not scrap the health law’s provisions allowing parents to keep their children covered under their insurance plans through age 26, or the prohibition on insurers discriminating against people with preexisting conditions, among others. But it does gut the law by eliminating the insurance exchanges and subsidies, and by repealing the Medicaid expansion accepted by 30 states.

[Gothmog]

10. I also believe that it takes 60 votes for a full repeal

[Gothmog]

11. Trump believes that he needs sixty votes for part of the repeal effort

Link to tweet

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