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catbyte

(34,376 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:06 AM Jul 2017

So that goddamned McConnell is going to kill the ACA with no backup just to say he did

something to destroy President Obama's legacy. Mere words are inadequate to express the depth of hatred and contempt I feel for that vile, contemptible,miserable asshole.



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So that goddamned McConnell is going to kill the ACA with no backup just to say he did (Original Post) catbyte Jul 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jul 2017 #1
That racist fucking hillbilly cracker Submariner Jul 2017 #2
If that dirty bastard tries, it won't go into effect until after 2020 Warpy Jul 2017 #3
The same was true...with the bill that they can't get through...a repeal without a replacement is Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #11
I'm not a bit surprised, the man is a zealot who is blinded by bigotry Warpy Jul 2017 #20
You raise a good point...does part of you enjoy the irony that McConnell is derailed by woman folk, Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #22
I think he's playing a game of chicken. davsand Jul 2017 #4
this is also diven by MAGGOT MFM008 Jul 2017 #5
Unless they do the nuclear option for bills, this would require a 2/3 vote still_one Jul 2017 #6
Yep, I feel it is a non starter mvd Jul 2017 #7
He's going to kill the filibuster altogether. Kablooie Jul 2017 #8
That is not the case. The bill only repeals the parts that can be repealed under Reconciliation. n/t BzaDem Jul 2017 #9
yep - 50 does it - a replacement then would take 60 votes DrDan Jul 2017 #12
Mhmm bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #15
I agree - after the first couple of defections, the flood gates will open DrDan Jul 2017 #16
They already passed it in 2015 Shrek Jul 2017 #14
They will oppose it anyway. If they could have gotten that through the House and Senate, they would Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #17
That goddamned McConnell is going to pretend to try. Orsino Jul 2017 #10
they're saying they want to repeal Obamacare but have the repeal delayed two years mnmoderatedem Jul 2017 #13
He'll try to, anyway. GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #18
small Achilleaze Jul 2017 #19
DENIED! You have been DENIED, You Old Turtle. MineralMan Jul 2017 #21

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Warpy

(111,254 posts)
3. If that dirty bastard tries, it won't go into effect until after 2020
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:25 AM
Jul 2017

and that will provide the Democrats with a perfect issue for 2018.

Should it be killed with nothing to replace it, the whole system will collapse with hospitals closing all over the country. Got a hot appendix? Tough shit, I guess.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
11. The same was true...with the bill that they can't get through...a repeal without a replacement is
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 06:47 AM
Jul 2017

DOA. I am surprised that McConnell is throwing Senators under the bus though....not smart.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
20. I'm not a bit surprised, the man is a zealot who is blinded by bigotry
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:52 PM
Jul 2017

After all, the ACA was basically the Heritage Foundation plan, the wet dream the right cherished for years of leaving for-profit insurance in the catbird seat and the gravy train for investors firmly on the rails. The reason for all the flying spittle in that party is because a black man got it passed. There is no other real objection.

For all their increasing rhetoric about its implosion and the imminent destruction of life as we all know it, they have not one single shred of evidence to back that up.

However, should they repeal it with nothing to replace it, expect the whole system to be in chaos and the effect in poor states like mine to be nothing short of devastating.

As for Senators being thrown under the bus, note how many of those are women. This is also typical of McConnell and his rotten party. Likely he'll blame the defeat of the glorious repeal of Obama's legacy on those damned, sentimental females who should never have been elected to the Senate, can't make the tough decisions, can they?

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
22. You raise a good point...does part of you enjoy the irony that McConnell is derailed by woman folk,
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jul 2017

he has such contempt for even women in his own party, they were not allowed in the room with the men folk during the health care bill work. They need to sit down and shut up don't you know...sorry McConnell we won't go back.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
4. I think he's playing a game of chicken.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:25 AM
Jul 2017

From the beginning, I had the feeling this entire dog and pony show was Paul Ryan's wet dream that meshed with trump's campaign promises. Yes, Ryan really is enough of a douche that he'd like to kill off a bunch of poor people--don't ever doubt it. Ryan jammed the House version through and suddenly the political feces started hitting the fan. Town Halls got really ugly, calls were pouring into the local and DC offices, and there was not a lot of doubt that this healthcare thing is a big old stinking political albatross that the GOP will end up owning.

The Senate, however, had enough "sane" (less crazy, maybe?) Republicans that are not willing to put their own seats on the line for anybody-including Mitch, Ryan, and the rotting mango in the Whitehouse (who was already undercutting this repeal in public!) IMO, what we are seeing is Mitch, putting on the show, with every realization that the repeal was DOA, and maybe even kinda quietly hoping it was gonna go away. I look for the spin to be, "We tried to help you stupid people, but the mean evil Democrats and stinkin' LIBERALS kept us from doin' it! Because, umm, BENGHAZI!" This way, the redneck/racist/trump base won't revolt, they get to keep their seats, and they all get to strut and preen some more.

'Cause none of us actually think any of those assholes are doing this to help the rest of us.


Laura

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
5. this is also diven by MAGGOT
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:26 AM
Jul 2017

his greatest ambition is to milk this country dry and eliminate all things Obama.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
8. He's going to kill the filibuster altogether.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:20 AM
Jul 2017

He knows it's impossible to get 2/3 votes so he will have to kill the filibuster to have a chance at getting it passed.
The filibuster for judges is already gone so he's going to finish the job.

BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
9. That is not the case. The bill only repeals the parts that can be repealed under Reconciliation. n/t
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:57 AM
Jul 2017

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
12. yep - 50 does it - a replacement then would take 60 votes
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:08 AM
Jul 2017

50 would really be a stretch considering around 30M off the insurance roles.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
15. Mhmm
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:40 AM
Jul 2017

And that's without McCain voting, which means they could only afford one defection. It won't get passed.

Shrek

(3,977 posts)
14. They already passed it in 2015
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:39 AM
Jul 2017

President Obama vetoed it.

It makes it tougher for Republicans to oppose it since they're already on record with a vote in favor.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
17. They will oppose it anyway. If they could have gotten that through the House and Senate, they would
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jul 2017

already have done so.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
10. That goddamned McConnell is going to pretend to try.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 06:38 AM
Jul 2017

It's all been kabuki. The Senate and House bills have been radioactive, and full repeal would take more votes than they could ever get...but the GOP committed themselves to the myth that the ACA was evil and is hurting America. They really wanted to pass their tax cuts, but not so much that they are willing to hand Congress back to Democrats in '18.

This last attempt will fail, and it will be McConnell's excuse to abandon repeal as requiring too many votes.

mnmoderatedem

(3,727 posts)
13. they're saying they want to repeal Obamacare but have the repeal delayed two years
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:14 AM
Jul 2017

but no one knows what the makeup of the Senate will be after mid terms. This is just for show.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
18. He'll try to, anyway.
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 07:53 AM
Jul 2017

But, he'll run into the same problem he's having now: Not enough votes. Republicans may be stupid, but there are enough moderates that realize that throwing their constituents off health insurance for even two years will be a death knell for their days in the Senate. They know that doing this could very well insure that the Democrats take back both the House and Senate next year, and they will be the ones who get to install the replacement.

If McConnell thinks this will turn out any different than any of his other attempts, he's even more deluded than I thought.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
19. small
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 08:10 AM
Jul 2017

mcconnell is small

the republican party is small

the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is small.

Shrunken, shriveled hearts and souls.

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