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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:12 PM Jul 2017

Trump just threatened Republican senators at a very awkward meeting at the White House

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/07/trump-demands-gop-senators-keep-their-promise-to-repeal-obamacare/

(snip)

At one point during Wednesday’s meeting, Trump gestured to Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), who was sitting next to him, and said, “Look, he wants to remain a senator, doesn’t he?” Heller is considered one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection in 2018. After initially rejecting a version of the GOP health care bill, Heller has not committed to voting a particular way on proposals this week.

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Trump just threatened Republican senators at a very awkward meeting at the White House (Original Post) deminks Jul 2017 OP
Mobsters gonna mob, eh - Holy crap, how long will non-complicit repugs put up with this shit?! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #1
"Nice Senate seat you have there.....I wouldn't want to see anything happen to it" kind of mobster? dem4decades Jul 2017 #5
Perzaclly, dem. Will any of them ever get tired of being manhandled like this?! Oy!! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #13
He may get to 25 %, the rest are in for the duration. dem4decades Jul 2017 #16
Why speak in third person, Heller is sitting right next to him - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #2
It is bullying!! Shameful of a President! riversedge Jul 2017 #3
This strategy by Trump just might backfire on him. MineralMan Jul 2017 #4
You know, not that I actually *desire* Mike Pence to be President, but.... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #6
The Distractions? ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #7
Fear of Trump's cult--they are the GOP base, and they vote--combined with, probably, tblue37 Jul 2017 #25
Maybe, But The Cult is 22% ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #26
They can when all the districts are as gerrymandered as they are.. Volaris Jul 2017 #28
What the Professor said above (his drama is good cover), and... Whiskeytide Jul 2017 #9
100% right. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #20
Thanks, But Actually I Don't Think... ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #27
I think I did get the meaning of your post ... Whiskeytide Jul 2017 #31
I almostfeel sorry for Tim Scott(SC) on the other side. irisblue Jul 2017 #8
Old movies Thedemby Jul 2017 #10
Old movies? Think strawberries and ball bearings Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #17
This is nothing but fox news Viagra Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2017 #11
It just dawned on me.... Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #12
Exactly! Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #24
of course he wants to remain a senator. That's why he's waffling on repealing Obamacare fishwax Jul 2017 #14
Exactly! Bradical79 Jul 2017 #21
To extrapolate, he's solidifying his bid for impeachment. Initech Jul 2017 #15
I never feel sorry for Repugs. If he wants to be reelected in 2018, he should flip to DEM, NCjack Jul 2017 #18
This is the inevitable result of pinning themselves into a corner OF THEIR OWN MAKING, no one OnDoutside Jul 2017 #22
I am wondering how much arm twisting and humiliation Grammy23 Jul 2017 #19
Apparently White House has been interviewing/recruiting primary opponents against Heller. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #23
Saddam, anyone?!1 UTUSN Jul 2017 #29
I'm going to get vewy vewy mad - Donald J Drumpf Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #30

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. This strategy by Trump just might backfire on him.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jul 2017

He may be the President, but he's new at this. A lot of those Senators have been in office for a long, long time, and are not easily threatened. His bluster is probably not going to impress everyone he's talking to.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
6. You know, not that I actually *desire* Mike Pence to be President, but....
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jul 2017

....what's stopping Republicans in Congress from saying to themselves, "You know we can do our same little dog and pony show with Mike Pence as President and avoid all this unnecessary drama, right?"

Seriously, why are Republicans still sticking with this guy?

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
7. The Distractions?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jul 2017

Look what they tried to sneak into the AHCA! While it is providing 24/7 cover, they can sneak around and try to push their Randian nonsense.

Seems like, at the very least, a logical reason.

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
25. Fear of Trump's cult--they are the GOP base, and they vote--combined with, probably,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 05:12 PM
Jul 2017

being themselves compromised by laundered Russian money and/or other things that Putin has on them.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
26. Maybe, But The Cult is 22%
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jul 2017

These political professionals can't really be worried about 2 of 9 voters

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
28. They can when all the districts are as gerrymandered as they are..
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:59 PM
Jul 2017

They went out of their way to make damned sure the rational voices of dirty liberals wouldn't outweigh the screams and delusions and WILL of the Crazies (and that goes for statewide races in a lot of Red places as well).

RE chicken tethering, this is a case of the dog swallowed the rope. Oh well. fuck em then=)

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
9. What the Professor said above (his drama is good cover), and...
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jul 2017

... he can hurt them. His 35% will do whatever he says. And his 35% is about 60% of the R base.

"Don't vote for "Sen. Doesnthavemyback. He's a loser. Low energy. Sad";

They are expecting tough election fights in 2018. If Trump disses them to his zombies, they're toast. And they know it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
27. Thanks, But Actually I Don't Think...
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jul 2017

...they fear him or his base
I don't agree with your numbers (I think it's far lower), but really the R's in Congress are cynical jerks who put their dumbass high school sophomore philosophy above reality and other people
They don't fear his base of morons! They can execute their idiotic philosophical agenda under cover because IT is creating smoke and fog so nobody actually sees what they're up to
Perhaps you misinterpreted my post. While I appreciate the back up, it's not really what I meant

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
31. I think I did get the meaning of your post ...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jul 2017

... that Trump's idiocy is a distraction that covers their efforts to dismantle our democracy piece by piece. I've said that before, and I think we can agree on it being true - whether they are actually employing it as a strategy or simply benefitting from it incidentally. My suppositions about their fear of his influence was an "in addition to" your point.

My 35% comes from the latest polls. I think anyone who is STILL willing to tell a pollster that they support Trump is pretty hard core, and is not going to easily abandon him at this point.

I did simply guesstimate that 35% of those polled equates to about 60% of the base - but I think that's reasonable - or at least in the ballpark. But I'm not married to my numbers. You said above that the cult is 22%. I'll accept that too.

Where we may differ, however, is whether that scares members of the R cabal. I think it does.

Their allegiance to him is truly akin to worship. Like - as you said - a cult. If R congress members participated in any effort to remove their hero, they would certainly hold that against each of them. If he also tweeted his instructions to abandon these traitorous, "not loyal republicans", they would do it in lockstep.

And 22% is huge in a mid term. Dems will be motivated (although I would agree that removing Trump would lower our participation level too), and having even 5% of the R base stay home would be fatal in many districts. That's a lot of unpredictability to deal with. They'd rather swallow their pride.

But we're good, and mostly on the same page. And I will stlll have your back even if we don't agree on all of the details.


Shell_Seas

(3,332 posts)
12. It just dawned on me....
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jul 2017

Russia is in out elections, our poll booths, our voting rolls.

Trump will not stop them.

He has some shammy voter fraud commission hell bent on voter suppression.

The top cyber security person at the State Department just left.

What if Trump actually can determine who will be in their position through hacking via Russia, through the voter fraud commission, etc?

What if it is already too late?

What if the Republicans already know this?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. I never feel sorry for Repugs. If he wants to be reelected in 2018, he should flip to DEM,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jul 2017

stand against Trump with the DEMs, and run as a DEM.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
22. This is the inevitable result of pinning themselves into a corner OF THEIR OWN MAKING, no one
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jul 2017

else should be sorry for them, except themselves.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
19. I am wondering how much arm twisting and humiliation
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 03:50 PM
Jul 2017

these guys will allow tRump to do before they give him a big FU. This show today was so trumpeter can show off, be the big man and bully the senators into passing something---anything. He wants a win. He does not care who gets hurt, who suffers. This is about making him feel good. But many of those people in Congress have been there a lot longer than tRump has been involved in politics. They are not going to let him run over them without consequences. Will they?

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