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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump just threatened Republican senators at a very awkward meeting at the White House
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/07/trump-demands-gop-senators-keep-their-promise-to-repeal-obamacare/(snip)
At one point during Wednesdays meeting, Trump gestured to Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), who was sitting next to him, and said, Look, he wants to remain a senator, doesnt he? Heller is considered one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection in 2018. After initially rejecting a version of the GOP health care bill, Heller has not committed to voting a particular way on proposals this week.
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Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)dem4decades
(11,282 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)dem4decades
(11,282 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)HE? Oh, nether mind.....
riversedge
(70,189 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)He may be the President, but he's new at this. A lot of those Senators have been in office for a long, long time, and are not easily threatened. His bluster is probably not going to impress everyone he's talking to.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)....what's stopping Republicans in Congress from saying to themselves, "You know we can do our same little dog and pony show with Mike Pence as President and avoid all this unnecessary drama, right?"
Seriously, why are Republicans still sticking with this guy?
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Look what they tried to sneak into the AHCA! While it is providing 24/7 cover, they can sneak around and try to push their Randian nonsense.
Seems like, at the very least, a logical reason.
tblue37
(65,334 posts)being themselves compromised by laundered Russian money and/or other things that Putin has on them.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)These political professionals can't really be worried about 2 of 9 voters
Volaris
(10,270 posts)They went out of their way to make damned sure the rational voices of dirty liberals wouldn't outweigh the screams and delusions and WILL of the Crazies (and that goes for statewide races in a lot of Red places as well).
RE chicken tethering, this is a case of the dog swallowed the rope. Oh well. fuck em then=)
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... he can hurt them. His 35% will do whatever he says. And his 35% is about 60% of the R base.
"Don't vote for "Sen. Doesnthavemyback. He's a loser. Low energy. Sad";
They are expecting tough election fights in 2018. If Trump disses them to his zombies, they're toast. And they know it.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)...they fear him or his base
I don't agree with your numbers (I think it's far lower), but really the R's in Congress are cynical jerks who put their dumbass high school sophomore philosophy above reality and other people
They don't fear his base of morons! They can execute their idiotic philosophical agenda under cover because IT is creating smoke and fog so nobody actually sees what they're up to
Perhaps you misinterpreted my post. While I appreciate the back up, it's not really what I meant
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... that Trump's idiocy is a distraction that covers their efforts to dismantle our democracy piece by piece. I've said that before, and I think we can agree on it being true - whether they are actually employing it as a strategy or simply benefitting from it incidentally. My suppositions about their fear of his influence was an "in addition to" your point.
My 35% comes from the latest polls. I think anyone who is STILL willing to tell a pollster that they support Trump is pretty hard core, and is not going to easily abandon him at this point.
I did simply guesstimate that 35% of those polled equates to about 60% of the base - but I think that's reasonable - or at least in the ballpark. But I'm not married to my numbers. You said above that the cult is 22%. I'll accept that too.
Where we may differ, however, is whether that scares members of the R cabal. I think it does.
Their allegiance to him is truly akin to worship. Like - as you said - a cult. If R congress members participated in any effort to remove their hero, they would certainly hold that against each of them. If he also tweeted his instructions to abandon these traitorous, "not loyal republicans", they would do it in lockstep.
And 22% is huge in a mid term. Dems will be motivated (although I would agree that removing Trump would lower our participation level too), and having even 5% of the R base stay home would be fatal in many districts. That's a lot of unpredictability to deal with. They'd rather swallow their pride.
But we're good, and mostly on the same page. And I will stlll have your back even if we don't agree on all of the details.
irisblue
(32,968 posts)Thedemby
(49 posts)I think I saw this before. Is trump walking around behind them with a baseball bat?
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Tonight they will blow this as if trump laid down the law.
Shell_Seas
(3,332 posts)Russia is in out elections, our poll booths, our voting rolls.
Trump will not stop them.
He has some shammy voter fraud commission hell bent on voter suppression.
The top cyber security person at the State Department just left.
What if Trump actually can determine who will be in their position through hacking via Russia, through the voter fraud commission, etc?
What if it is already too late?
What if the Republicans already know this?
Lyricalinklines
(367 posts)Worth consideration when viewing the entirety of scope of investigation.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)Duh
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)He knows what the polls say.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Keep digging that hole, Donnie!
NCjack
(10,279 posts)stand against Trump with the DEMs, and run as a DEM.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)else should be sorry for them, except themselves.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)these guys will allow tRump to do before they give him a big FU. This show today was so trumpeter can show off, be the big man and bully the senators into passing something---anything. He wants a win. He does not care who gets hurt, who suffers. This is about making him feel good. But many of those people in Congress have been there a lot longer than tRump has been involved in politics. They are not going to let him run over them without consequences. Will they?