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rand paul says the cbo is just guess work like astrology (Original Post) spanone Jul 2017 OP
Some of it is guesswork. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #1
But, They Declare Their Assumptions, NCT ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #4
"Astrologers sure don't." NCTraveler Jul 2017 #5
it's the metric congress has used for forty years....it's blaming the messenger spanone Jul 2017 #6
I made no argument to the contrary. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #9
You Misunderstood ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #7
A premise predicated on probability and potential is not a guess. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #10
Many of their assumptions do meet the definition of guessing. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #11
Rightwingers view science as a belief system SHRED Jul 2017 #2
Bad move! I'll bet most of his voters believe in astrology because they'd believe anything. Towlie Jul 2017 #3
What a dunce. Both Kentucky senators are full of shit. oasis Jul 2017 #8
the u.s. mail seems to do a great job in my area....don't know about paul's district spanone Jul 2017 #13
Rand Paul types, the Cato Institute and Newt Gingrich have been oasis Jul 2017 #15
So is the governor. SharonClark Jul 2017 #20
The CBO use to be the gospel for Republicans Thrill Jul 2017 #12
Can't let Virgos and Leos have the same plan in the same state, right? bmpbmp Jul 2017 #14
Between himself and that thick POS Jim Jordan, my blood pressure was raised during that 30 mins. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #16
Hey, Rand, shove it up Uranus. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #17
Translation: "It doesn't say waht I want it to say, so lalalalalalalalalalal" JHB Jul 2017 #18
Another fucking idiot. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #19
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Some of it is guesswork.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jul 2017

It has happened this year with respect to some of the bills the Republicans have sent to them. The CBO will make certain assumptions. There were parts of Trumps original budget that they wouldn't go as far as making the necessary assumptions as there was too little to go off of. They have limits on how far they will go with their assumptions.

ProfessorGAC

(64,989 posts)
4. But, They Declare Their Assumptions, NCT
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:04 AM
Jul 2017

Astrologers sure don't. There's no technical basis to make assumptions of any kind. At least in the CBO case, there is some history and logic behind the assumptions. And, they openly declare the "what if's" needed to make the projections accurate.

Oh yeah: And Rand Paul is an idiot.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. "Astrologers sure don't."
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:08 AM
Jul 2017

Many can and have declared their assumptions. Here we have a situation where an absolute statement fails absolutely.

"There's no technical basis to make assumptions of any kind."

Yes, there are. Assumptions are made in just about every single CBO report. These assumptions are technical in nature.

"And Rand Paul is an idiot."

True that.

ProfessorGAC

(64,989 posts)
7. You Misunderstood
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:10 AM
Jul 2017

My statement about no technical basis was about astrologers, not the CBO. As someone who has done tons of mathematical modeling over my career, i know that, and you're completely correct. But, while an astrologer might make an assumption, there is no technical basis for it. The CBO is a completely different story.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. A premise predicated on probability and potential is not a guess.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jul 2017

A premise predicated on probability and potential is not a guess

(Guess: to arrive at an opinion about (something) without having sufficient evidence to support the opinion).

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Many of their assumptions do meet the definition of guessing.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jul 2017

Educated guesses they are.

As a noun:

an estimate or conjecture

oasis

(49,370 posts)
8. What a dunce. Both Kentucky senators are full of shit.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jul 2017

Paul uses the Russian distribution of bread and U.S. Post office mail delivery as examples of government ineptitude.

Rand Paul should be the poster child for the "Party of No".

spanone

(135,816 posts)
13. the u.s. mail seems to do a great job in my area....don't know about paul's district
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:30 AM
Jul 2017

it was a cheap shot at best

oasis

(49,370 posts)
15. Rand Paul types, the Cato Institute and Newt Gingrich have been
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jul 2017

trying to privitize the Postal Service for 30+years.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
16. Between himself and that thick POS Jim Jordan, my blood pressure was raised during that 30 mins.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jul 2017

God they are lying scummy scum scum. The big problem is that interviewers don't fully understand the ACA, and consequently don't know enough to effectively push back on their lies. IT IS SO FRUSTRATING !!!

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