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O.J. is on ABC, CBS, NBC, and all the cable news channels (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 OP
All reality TV started with O.J. Simpson and his friends, the Kardashians. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #1
The Real World predates OJ by a couple of years BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #14
Howard Stern Created "Reality Entertainment", I Would Argue Skraxx Jul 2017 #23
Yeah, except for the fact that Howard was still in college when American Family aired on PBS. BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #25
Disagree completely, no one has ever heard of that show, I doubt the significance of it Skraxx Jul 2017 #43
Everyone watched that show flamingdem Jul 2017 #52
No they didn't, I didn't and I've never heard of it, and it was my generation Skraxx Jul 2017 #58
Yes, but the OJ spectacle demonstrated how to do it, add big names, and have little to no production Foamfollower Jul 2017 #49
Kinda sorta, I guess moose65 Jul 2017 #33
The father of the Kardashian family was OJ Simpson's friend and lawyer. nkpolitics1212 Jul 2017 #44
Yeah, when OJ hid out from the cops do you know where he hid and nearly killed himself? Foamfollower Jul 2017 #48
I believe Kardashian recommended Shapiro and then became part of the team - You know why? rufus dog Jul 2017 #50
Did't you hear? Blue_true Jul 2017 #45
Is Cowling waiting outside in a white Bronco? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #2
Does anyone care about O.J. anymore? Tanuki Jul 2017 #3
Apparently all the major news networks do.. WoonTars Jul 2017 #13
They no doubt hope to whip up ratings, as they did when this decades-old story Tanuki Jul 2017 #21
Too late...we have become a fame-obsessed, soundbite population WoonTars Jul 2017 #22
I Was Wondering If I Was the Only One Leith Jul 2017 #4
We are cultural pinheads BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #5
Not near a tv. cwydro Jul 2017 #6
Even BBC. Eugene Jul 2017 #7
NO tv in my home has this on. This is going back in time benld74 Jul 2017 #8
Glad my tv of OFF. riversedge Jul 2017 #9
Brings me back to my hotel room in Ijselin, on June 17 1994....watching that Ford Bronco on the OnDoutside Jul 2017 #10
LOL I watched it as I packed MuseRider Jul 2017 #29
It made such an impression because a group of 40 of us had just flown into Washington OnDoutside Jul 2017 #34
Sounds like a memorable day all on it's own! MuseRider Jul 2017 #36
Your memory beats mine ! Great story. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #38
Not at all! MuseRider Jul 2017 #39
Nice to meet you too, MuseRider ! OnDoutside Jul 2017 #40
Yes Catherine Vincent Jul 2017 #11
I expect a Dolt45 Tweetstorm... HipChick Jul 2017 #12
Ugh. Thanks for the warning... Oneironaut Jul 2017 #15
This coverage is further proof the media is anything but liberal. tenderfoot Jul 2017 #16
Holy crap OJ's parole hearing is on ESPN & ESPN2 too. eom a kennedy Jul 2017 #17
Only place it makes sense Bradical79 Jul 2017 #35
But On Two Channels? ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #56
I'm watching dvr of last night's rachel. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #18
Golf Channel jehop61 Jul 2017 #19
His golf game wasn't much to begin with Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #30
Our country is in the toilet and this is proof positive that our inept M$M helped put us there. FreeStateDemocrat Jul 2017 #20
I switched to SyFy to watch a really bad zombie movie instead. Towlie Jul 2017 #24
Me too... Zoonart Jul 2017 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #41
As if we did not have enough back in 1994 (nt) question everything Jul 2017 #26
How's the show? Renew Deal Jul 2017 #27
Are they going to follow his car home from a helicopter? I seriously would NOT BigDemVoter Jul 2017 #31
They did that when Casey Anthony was released from jail LeftInTX Jul 2017 #46
good day cilla4progress Jul 2017 #32
hence the 'president' spanone Jul 2017 #37
the News is not there to inform us, but that pretense is still incredibly important for them to JCanete Jul 2017 #42
Is he going to run for president? LeftInTX Jul 2017 #47
Broadcast news is celebrity obsessed Warpy Jul 2017 #51
OJ should be ignored .. he'd hate that. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #53
It's so 90s MFM008 Jul 2017 #54
Who watches that crap anymore? They have lost journalistic excellence long ago AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #55
OJ said he'd led a conflict free life. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #57

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
14. The Real World predates OJ by a couple of years
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jul 2017

Some point to that as the beginning of modern reality TV. PBS also had a quasi reality TV show back in the 70's called An American Family. I think what OJ did more than anything was usher in an era of infotainment in the news media.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
25. Yeah, except for the fact that Howard was still in college when American Family aired on PBS.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jul 2017

Not to take anything away from him of course. I'm a fan. But I don't really see a direct connect between what he does and Reality TV. Different formats. Apples to oranges.



Skraxx

(2,970 posts)
43. Disagree completely, no one has ever heard of that show, I doubt the significance of it
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

Howard's impact is not debatable.

Skraxx

(2,970 posts)
58. No they didn't, I didn't and I've never heard of it, and it was my generation
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jul 2017

Whatever impact it had, IMO is limited. Reality entertainment was in large part driven by Stern, IMO.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
49. Yes, but the OJ spectacle demonstrated how to do it, add big names, and have little to no production
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 01:16 AM
Jul 2017

costs.

He hid out in Kim and Kloe Kardashian's shared bedroom! HE came close to offing himself there!

And now Kardashians have been foisted on us through "reality TV" for years!

moose65

(3,166 posts)
33. Kinda sorta, I guess
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jul 2017

I think the OJ case was the start of "news-as-entertainment." IMO, it was a huge mistake to allow the trial to be televised. That changed it from a trial to a media spectacle, and people acted like they were watching a night time soap or something.

Game shows were really the first "reality" TV, and then came "An American Family" and "The Real World," but the genre shot into the stratosphere with Survivor and all its clones, and American Idol and all of its clones.

Does anyone remember the show "Real People" from the late 70s/early 80s?

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
44. The father of the Kardashian family was OJ Simpson's friend and lawyer.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:19 PM
Jul 2017

Robert Kardashian was Simpsons lawyer before Shapiro and Cochran were hired. Kardashian was a legal assistant in the Dream Team. Simpson could guest star in Keeping with the Kardashians.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
48. Yeah, when OJ hid out from the cops do you know where he hid and nearly killed himself?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 01:15 AM
Jul 2017

Yeah, in Kim ad Kloe's Kardashian's shared childhood bedroom.

Other things came first, there is no doubt, but the OJ show proved how "reality TV" could captivate audiences with little to no production cost compnred to standard television fare.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
50. I believe Kardashian recommended Shapiro and then became part of the team - You know why?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 01:42 AM
Jul 2017

Attorney client privilege. He took a duffle bag out of the house the day OJ returned, right in front of the two Sr. Detectives, walks it to his car, puts it in the trunk.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
21. They no doubt hope to whip up ratings, as they did when this decades-old story
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017

was a national obsession. I just hope that the crucial issues facing us at the moment (treason, healthcare, global warming, etc.) don't get shoved aside to focus on this irrelevant sideshow.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
4. I Was Wondering If I Was the Only One
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jul 2017

Did Tommy Lee and Robert Downey Jr. get that kind of attention on the news when they got out of jail? They were famous at the time. How about Lauryn Hill? James Brown?

Martha Stewart got some attention, but not like this.

I'm so sick of OJ.

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
29. LOL I watched it as I packed
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jul 2017

for a nice long diving trip in Honduras. Funny how we remember things based on what we were doing at the time. I could not have told you what year that was but I could always tell you it was the year of OJ and A. and the white bronco.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
34. It made such an impression because a group of 40 of us had just flown into Washington
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:22 PM
Jul 2017

from Ireland (on an Aeroflot flight of all things !) for 1994 Soccer World Cup in the US. The following day we went to see Ireland beat Italy in Giants Stadium.

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
36. Sounds like a memorable day all on it's own!
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jul 2017

Good memory of the game and your Aeroflot flight! I would say that is a pretty good reason to remember the flight of the Bronco.


My only other memory of the OJ stuff, because I was not going to waste my time watching that crap on TV, was that I was learning how to ride cutting horses at that time. My neighbor and I would go out and bring in 100 head of cattle from the hills and we would take lessons. He had 2 bulls there who kept escaping and he named them OJ and Al. Our job when they got out was to go find them, fix the fences if we could and bring them back. Neither of us knew what we were doing or even whose pastures we were in but we would find them and bring them back. We knew nothing about doing this but we figured it out (it is easier to bring in 100 head than 2). Eventually I found out that he had to slaughter both bulls because they were recalcitrant and mean. Still, it was my friend and I out searching for OJ and Al for several months before their demise.

EDITS because I cannot spell today

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
39. Not at all!
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jul 2017

The very fact that you are in Ireland beats everything in my life! I want so much to visit there. My Great Grandmother was a Clancy, close relation to the Clancy Brothers. I thought she was a sister but everyone is dead now and there is nobody to ask. Still, love your beautiful country. Love my friends from there and their incredible language and their accent when speaking mine. I have a set of smallpipes sitting in my office I need to fix up so I can teach myself to play them. I know they are English or Scottish but pipes be pipes by some measure. Uilleann pipes were too big for me but oh how I would love a set. Nice to meet you OnDoutside.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
40. Nice to meet you too, MuseRider !
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 05:30 PM
Jul 2017

Was she born in Ireland ? A Great Grandmother is definitely possible to investigate, I'd be more than happy to help you research. I've been researching my own family history for the last 16 years or so, so I have a good bit of experience now. You're more than welcome to private message me.

I'm sure you are aware of the great Uilleann piper, Willie Clancy ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Clancy_(musician)



The foremost Uilleann piper of today is Liam O'Flynn



I'm always in awe of musicians, I don't have the patience myself, although my son has really taken to the piano.

Oneironaut

(5,493 posts)
15. Ugh. Thanks for the warning...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:37 PM
Jul 2017

I refuse to watch this irrelevant piece of trash. The media almost worships him as an anti-hero. He's a loser who had money and a good lawyer.

Further proof that our "news" here isn't real news. It's dumbed down entertainment made to attract attention like a screaming carnival barker.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
16. This coverage is further proof the media is anything but liberal.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jul 2017

It's also one of the reasons for mass ignorance across the land.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
35. Only place it makes sense
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jul 2017

Most of their programming is filler, esp. at this time of year, and Simpson was a football great.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
56. But On Two Channels?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 05:49 AM
Jul 2017

I get what you're saying, but one of their channels wasn't enough
On SportsNation Beadle was making fun of her own network
This isn't sports and hasn't played football in 45 years
A big "who cares?"!!!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
30. His golf game wasn't much to begin with
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jul 2017

O.J. played the same course I did -- Calusa Country Club -- in the early 2000s when he lived in Miami. I saw him there all the time and it was incredibly awkward. He had the same group of guys he played with and then his blonde girlfriend Kristi followed in a separate cart.

O.J. had a short choppy swing but a good short game. Obviously I never played with him but lots of holes on that course ran toward each other so I saw him hit plenty of shots.

We always left the course restaurant when O.J. was there. His voice boomed and he never shut up.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
20. Our country is in the toilet and this is proof positive that our inept M$M helped put us there.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:17 PM
Jul 2017

Playing to the lowest common denominator.

Response to Towlie (Reply #24)

LeftInTX

(25,278 posts)
46. They did that when Casey Anthony was released from jail
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jul 2017

They followed the car she was in, but somehow the helicopter somehow lost her. She ended up switching cars and was whisked off into a private jet.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
42. the News is not there to inform us, but that pretense is still incredibly important for them to
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jul 2017

maintain.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
55. Who watches that crap anymore? They have lost journalistic excellence long ago
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:55 AM
Jul 2017

They are like the MySpace of social media.

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