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trueblue2007

(17,205 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:19 PM Jul 2017

Gees i wish someone within the IRS would provide Trumps taxes !!! Whistleblower style.

why is Trump going crazy??? Is it because Mueller has asked IRS to go after Trumps Taxes?

WE NEED A hero !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Unconventional Idea

But what if the returns were dumped on the committee’s lap by an IRS employee without the Committee having made a request? That could happen under the very last paragraph in subsection (f).

Section §6103(f)(5) is a whistleblower exception to the general rule of nondisclosure. It permits disclosure of tax returns to one of the tax-writing committees by “any person who otherwise has or had access to any return or return information under this section” when that person believes that “such return or return information may relate to possible misconduct, maladministration, or taxpayer abuse.”

The plain language of this provision suggests that an IRS employee who otherwise has authorized access to Trump’s tax returns could blow the whistle on Trump if that employee believes Trump’s tax returns related to “possible misconduct” or “possible maladministration.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/procedurallytaxing/2017/02/21/disclosing-president-trumps-tax-returns-an-unconventional-idea/#38f8aa265010

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Gees i wish someone within the IRS would provide Trumps taxes !!! Whistleblower style. (Original Post) trueblue2007 Jul 2017 OP
and WHY .... would Trump want to pardon himself ???? trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #1
I guarantee you Mueller already has them, its the first place you start. sunonmars Jul 2017 #2
I have wondered why someone hasn't done this yet, too. He has insulted R B Garr Jul 2017 #3
i wonder HOW MANY PEOPLE could possibly have access to them. trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #5
NO ONE can access much less copy or distribute info from ANYONE's tax account anonymously... TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #7
Cowards? jazzcat23 Jul 2017 #4
I will speculate that the IRS and DOJ have been investigating Trump for TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #6
right. But can a prosecutor obtain IRS records directly from IRS, with authorization? Or do you Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #13
No. The IRS doesn't allow any other federal agency to directly access taxpayer info. TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #16
Thanks! What I was getting at was that Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #17
Has it occurred to you that there may be nothing illegal in Trump's taxes? brooklynite Jul 2017 #8
The IRS and the DOJ have to work TOGETHER to prosecute a financial crimes case... TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #9
...and how many years has the IRS been looking at Trump's taxes? brooklynite Jul 2017 #10
Oops...you almost fell for one of Trump's possible lies. Do we know what he said is Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #14
BOTH Rachel and Lawrence think there are scary things in Trumps taxes trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #11
"Scary" is not necessarily "illegal" brooklynite Jul 2017 #12
What TheDebbieDee said. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #15
Trump voters don't care what is in tax returns Cicada Jul 2017 #18

trueblue2007

(17,205 posts)
1. and WHY .... would Trump want to pardon himself ????
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:24 PM
Jul 2017

WHY .... would Trump want to pardon himself ???? BECAUSE HE IS GUILTY of Crimes & Misdemeanors

GOING DOWN THE MONEY TRAIL ..... They will find the Dirt on Trump and Associates on Russians who stole the election from Hillary.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
3. I have wondered why someone hasn't done this yet, too. He has insulted
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jul 2017

enough career employees all over our government, I bet lots of people have had an eye on doing this.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
7. NO ONE can access much less copy or distribute info from ANYONE's tax account anonymously...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jul 2017

Also, there are laws that forbid unwarranted access to taxpayer accounts...

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
4. Cowards?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jul 2017

Is there really nobody with an ounce of courage to stop this buffoon? No, I can't call him man or president, he does not deserve ANY respect from any of us. Not until he learns to give us respect.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
6. I will speculate that the IRS and DOJ have been investigating Trump for
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:10 PM
Jul 2017

financial crimes for several months, maybe even years! They could have been investigating him since way before he began his run for President. Financial crimes cases can't be made in a couple of weeks! It requires forensic accountants and payment tracers and all kinds of specialized investigators.

One last thing - No one can access ANYONE'S tax account without leaving an electronic signature...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. right. But can a prosecutor obtain IRS records directly from IRS, with authorization? Or do you
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:08 AM
Jul 2017

have to obtain them from the US citizen?

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
16. No. The IRS doesn't allow any other federal agency to directly access taxpayer info.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:24 AM
Jul 2017

The prosecutor would have to get an IRS associate or liaison assigned to the team, then the associate or liaison would get the transcripts, returns or others documents that DOJ team requested...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Thanks! What I was getting at was that
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:41 AM
Jul 2017

they could be accessed through the proper channels. The laws don't state that only the taxpayer could do that under subpoena/ruling.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
8. Has it occurred to you that there may be nothing illegal in Trump's taxes?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:12 PM
Jul 2017

If there was, there's no reason the IRS wouldn't have informed DOJ before this point.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
9. The IRS and the DOJ have to work TOGETHER to prosecute a financial crimes case...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:22 PM
Jul 2017

It takes several months of DOJ prosecuting attorneys working with IRS accountants to put together a case, then prosecute it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Oops...you almost fell for one of Trump's possible lies. Do we know what he said is
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:10 AM
Jul 2017

true? We only have a proven liar's word that IRS has audited him for many years

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
15. What TheDebbieDee said.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jul 2017

The IRS takes the confidentiality of tax records very seriously, and does not hesitate to fire employees for simply looking at records they are not supposed to.

Plus, at this late date I'd venture that Donnie's tax records hardly matter any more. The out and out treasonous behavior is what matters.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
18. Trump voters don't care what is in tax returns
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 03:19 AM
Jul 2017

Tax returns might show financial ties to Russians. So what?

Trump is loved primarily because he hates the browns, the blacks, the asians, the pointy-headed intellectuals. He wants to build a wall. The "southern strategy" worked for Nixon, it worked for Reagan and it worked for Trump. Nothing else really matters.

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