Pardoning anyone would admit guilt, wouldn't that guilt be enough to impeach?

[NightWatcher]

If he has to pardon Jr and Jared for collusion with Russia to fix the election, it's and admission of guilt in that he just said that Russia ratfucked the election. Wouldn't that be enough to even get a large chunk of republican senators to vote for removal? I'd hope that there'd be a ton of public pressure to go along with impeachment and removal.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

1. Republicans will never impeach Trump.

[NightWatcher]

2. If they think they'll lose in their reelection, they will.

[uponit7771]

4. Not so sure they wont have Russia's help

[50 Shades Of Blue]

5. A few maybe. Not enough of them.

Look at how unpopular Obamacare repeal is becoming - but enough House Republicans still voted for it to pass the House version, and there's still a chance enough Republican Senators will too.

They have Russia to ensure their next elections.

[briv1016]

11. That and the Voter Suppression Commission.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. This is a Street fight. It's not a legal battle.

If they give themselves enough political cover they will not impeach and hope it blows over.

[Javaman]

13. the won't impeach him because they are all involved...

from day one of this whole mess, I have always felt that the russian problem is systemic among the republican party.

they are all involved.

[Warpy]

3. It would massively obstruct ongoing investigations

and that in itself would be an impeachable offense.

Just don't expect a political party full of crooks to do it.

[marylandblue]

6. If Trump's behavior continues to interfere with their agenda

They will impeach him and work with President Pence. They will not impeach Pence even if he is involved with the crimes.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Pardons will make Two Scoops' life even more legally perilous

Lawrence Tribe, for very sound legal reasons, holds that a self pardon is unconstitutional.

Others can be pardoned. BUT . . . once pardoned, one cannot lean onthe 5th to avoid giving testimony. That means they must tell the truth or face perjury charges.

"Jared, did Two Scoops know about the meeting with Half Scoop and the cute Russian lawyer?"

"Well . . . uh . . . ya see . . . uh . . . "

"Jaaaarrrreeeeed . . . no supper for you if you don't open up. Come on, little fella. You can do it. Remember that story I told you about prison life . . . . ?"

[ginnyinWI]

9. even if it is proved the Russia hacked the election,

that doesn't automatically nullify the election. He was sworn in and is President.

What removes Trump from office is his own violations, such as obstruction of justice, which I am sure can be shown many ways! He's still doing it this week.

[NightWatcher]

10. I never said nullify, but removal is the end of the successful impeachment process

[awesomerwb1]

12. Impeachment means nothing.

He could be impeached and still remain in power.

Congress would then strike a deal where they would agree to impeach but Senate would not remove.

Best we can hope for, though not the only avenue, is state criminal prosecution no?