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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:58 PM Jul 2017

Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence

Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials both in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.

One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he has no recollection of the April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.


Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. Senator that he met with Kislyak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-discussed-trump-campaign-related-matters-with-russian-ambassador-us-intelligence-intercepts-show/2017/07/21/3e704692-6e44-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.540b5de9204d


Who here is surprised by this news? I know I'm not.
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Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence (Original Post) herding cats Jul 2017 OP
Russian Ambassador is a spy working for the KGB, they call it something else now, but same thing. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #1
Well, he's a Confederate at heart so yeah misanthrope Jul 2017 #11
Boom! Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #2
Ye haw, it's BOOM o'clock!! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #4
In the NYT interview the Con said Sessions lied about the meeting malaise Jul 2017 #12
My gut says it's him as well, but I'm surprised WaPo would be drawn into it. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #27
This is a Trump attempt to hatchet Sessions, but there's no real proof. Not that I doubt it. herding cats Jul 2017 #34
How odd that this should appear at a moment when Trump would like to be rid of Sessions ???? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #3
This much coincidence takes a ton of planning and cooperation. NightWatcher Jul 2017 #5
My thoughts exactly...... kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #7
Convenient isn't it Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #8
Yep. herding cats Jul 2017 #9
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2017 #10
Ding ding malaise Jul 2017 #13
Yeah. Kinda fishy, not that I doubt he did it. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #16
Just what I posted in another thread. Duppers Jul 2017 #24
I smell a very stinky dead rat. Old Terp Jul 2017 #25
It is vitally important that we enforce federal law fully whenever sick grannies eat pot brownies Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #6
Trump can't lift sanctions without Atty Gen, Sec of State and Treasury Sec all going along wishstar Jul 2017 #14
I'm inclined to believe that as well ... and it won't matter if allegations are true or not Greywing Jul 2017 #18
Imagine if Sessions turns against Trump now GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #20
That's what my first thought was. herding cats Jul 2017 #29
Yet.. GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #31
BINGO! nt Duppers Jul 2017 #26
I so want to see Trump and Sessions turn on each other. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #15
MSNBC now reporting that Kushner has added dozens more records to his Financial Disclosure. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #17
He had a sudden memory jog, did he? herding cats Jul 2017 #21
There's so much stuff coming out, it's so easy to forget ! OnDoutside Jul 2017 #23
Mm hm. Who knew there would be such scrutiny at the top level. herding cats Jul 2017 #28
True ! Though democracy is far from safe yet. The big plays OnDoutside Jul 2017 #30
We're still in the opening acts. herding cats Jul 2017 #35
The Keebler cracker kissing on Kislyak Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #19
Ha! herding cats Jul 2017 #22
So if there was anoother president al would be okay with this information Kathy M Jul 2017 #32
I can't decide whether every night is a SHOCK or a Kickety-kick UTUSN Jul 2017 #33

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Russian Ambassador is a spy working for the KGB, they call it something else now, but same thing.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

Sessions is a traitor too, but we knew that.

malaise

(268,850 posts)
12. In the NYT interview the Con said Sessions lied about the meeting
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jul 2017

so we know from where these leaks are flowing.

Get the popcorn. The Con wants Sessions out - the thing is they are all LIARS starting with the Con.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
34. This is a Trump attempt to hatchet Sessions, but there's no real proof. Not that I doubt it.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:42 PM
Jul 2017

What will Sessions do ultimately is the question? I'm not sure myself, but many seem to think he'll fall on his sword and resign within days.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
24. Just what I posted in another thread.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jul 2017

It's just too convenient.

Even Dana Bash (R- CNN) had the same observation.

Old Terp

(464 posts)
25. I smell a very stinky dead rat.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jul 2017

In a normal world, I would be glad to see Sessions go. However, since he is out of the loop on all things Russia, replacing him with a Trump suck-up, would make getting rid of Muller much cleaner and easier--may be no need to fire anyone. If he has the guts to stay, we should let him. I will be so glad when all these Trump people are gone.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. It is vitally important that we enforce federal law fully whenever sick grannies eat pot brownies
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jul 2017

perjury before congress? meh

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
14. Trump can't lift sanctions without Atty Gen, Sec of State and Treasury Sec all going along
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:18 PM
Jul 2017

I read this recently, that Trump can only lift sanctions with those 3 Cabinet members approving. Mnuchin and Tillerson will go along, but Sessions is recused and will not go along.

I am willing to bet Trump told Putin or Russians that he could not lift sanctions because of Sessions recusal, so Russians are doing their best to help Trump by Kislyak releasing this to help Trump either fire Sessions or force him to resign, so Trump can appoint another Atty Gen. who will go along with lifting sanctions.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
18. I'm inclined to believe that as well ... and it won't matter if allegations are true or not
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jul 2017

Trump will ask for Putin's help and try to destroy every one in his way ... he is "The Snake".

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
20. Imagine if Sessions turns against Trump now
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:32 PM
Jul 2017

Imagine the United States Attorney General obtaining immunity for testifying against the President of the United States.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
35. We're still in the opening acts.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jul 2017

The real drama hasn't even begun if I'm gauging this correctly.

It's going to be a bumpy ride before this one plays out.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
32. So if there was anoother president al would be okay with this information
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jul 2017

getting out and talked about non stop on cable ?

When from the article "“Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokeswoman in a statement. She reiterated that Sessions did not discuss interference in the election."

I do not like Sessions but I would prefer proof instead of this looking like a set up to stay on the Nixon story line .

gee I think it would be better to uncover all and not stop preemptively

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