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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 03:48 PM Jul 2017

Trump Starts Referring To Himself In Third Person During Incoherent Naval Carrier Speech





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Trump Starts Referring To Himself In Third Person During Incoherent Naval Carrier Speech via @politicususa








Trump Starts Referring To Himself In Third Person During Incoherent Naval Carrier Speech


http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/22/trump-veers-naval-carrier-speech-starts-referring-person.html

By Sean Colarossi on Sat, Jul 22nd, 2017 at 12:26 pm

"President Trump, I will tell you, you will get it, don't worry about it," Trump told the crowd aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford.
Trump Starts Referring To Himself In Third Person During Incoherent Naval Carrier Speech

During his speech aboard USS Gerald R. Ford on Saturday, Donald Trump veered off course and started referring to himself in the third person.

The moment came when Trump was discussing his proposal to massively increase military spending as part of his disastrous budget blueprint. He told those in the crowd to give him “a little hand” and call their representatives in Congress.

Video:

Trump said:

Now we need Congress to do its job and pass the budget that provides for higher, stable and predictable funding levels for our military needs that our fighting men and women deserve. And you will get – believe me. President Trump, I will tell you, you will get it, don’t worry about it. But I don’t mind getting a little hand, so call that congressman and call that senator and make sure you get it. And by the way, you can also call those senators to make sure you get health care.


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While Trump’s budget does include massive increases in military spending, which the Pentagon isn’t even asking for, it makes devastating cuts to other important areas, including Medicaid, education, and environmental programs.

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Trump Starts Referring To Himself In Third Person During Incoherent Naval Carrier Speech (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
The poor thang... magicarpet Jul 2017 #1
He already has a little hand. tavernier Jul 2017 #2
True but I think people should be looking at this statement in a greater context Rural_Progressive Jul 2017 #31
He's stuck in a Seinfeld episode. CanonRay Jul 2017 #3
"Jimmy likes Elaine too" HAHA bettyellen Jul 2017 #5
Heh. JBoy Jul 2017 #26
You need the video BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #37
Yes! CanonRay Jul 2017 #39
It wasn't that incoherent ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #4
+1 Nevernose Jul 2017 #6
Yep true elehhhhna Jul 2017 #9
DUzy malaise Jul 2017 #24
Nothing new loyalsister Jul 2017 #7
Trump doesn't even want to be associated with Donald J. Trump now nt doc03 Jul 2017 #8
You blame him? malaise Jul 2017 #25
My mom has started doing that Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #10
I am so ashamed frazzled Jul 2017 #11
I hate to say this but malaise Jul 2017 #27
That boy just ain't right. 11 Bravo Jul 2017 #12
No. He sure... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #20
Note the Pentagon is not asking for more money. This is the laundering scheme that involves the MIC nikibatts Jul 2017 #13
"Make America Russia Again"? Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #18
Nice nikibatts Jul 2017 #38
I think he was just talking confusingly. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #14
I think he has a chicken wing lodged in his frontal lobe. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #15
I think he's quoting TrogL Jul 2017 #16
Why are we doing this? murielm99 Jul 2017 #17
The royal "we" MFM008 Jul 2017 #19
Maybe he wasn't trump rpannier Jul 2017 #21
Oh lordy. Now he also has 'Bob Dole Syndrome'. trof Jul 2017 #22
I saw some of this in a small screen.... dawnie51 Jul 2017 #23
He already has all the "little hands" he can deal with. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #28
but tblue, he's told us he's going to bring more jobs back to 'murica Rural_Progressive Jul 2017 #32
You know what's scary? All of the tweets saying this was a "powerful," "epic," and "historic" speech Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #29
The Russian hackers are still hammering away at their keyboards. lpbk2713 Jul 2017 #33
Everything he's done is illegitimate bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #30
Question heather blossom Jul 2017 #34
Tin pot dictator type of speech JHan Jul 2017 #35
I love the crowd in the back.....not even paying attention. a kennedy Jul 2017 #36

magicarpet

(14,124 posts)
1. The poor thang...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jul 2017

..... he is under so much self induced stress he is having an out of body experience.

Remedy......

Resign... Post haste.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
31. True but I think people should be looking at this statement in a greater context
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jul 2017

Trump may very well be looking for "a little hand" in the context of his jobs program.

Whatcha' think?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. It wasn't that incoherent
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:04 PM
Jul 2017

Those guys at politicssusa don't know a comma when they hear it.

Here is what they transcribed:

And you will get – believe me. President Trump, I will tell you, you will get it, don’t worry about it.

Here is the way it should be transcribed:

And you will get – believe me, president Trump. I will tell you, you will get it, don’t worry about it.

Rambling, maybe. Incoherent, somewhat. But the third person thing, not really. I was much more interested in his asking people to call their senators and demand healthcare (as if it didn't already exist with ACA).

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
6. +1
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jul 2017

That was the most disturbing part for me, as well. Yet another reminder that he not only doesn't know what he's doing, he doesn't even understand what he's talking about.

It's not so much that he's in water over his head; it's that he's drowning and wants someone to get a shovel and dig him out.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. Nothing new
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jul 2017

It's actually a PR and political technique. Remember Bob Dole?

"Trump talking about himself in the third person reflects his perception of himself as being a larger-than-life character in the world stage," suggests Schneiderman. "Which, aside from the fact that he has an inflated ego, he happens to be."

Elizabeth Ossoff, an expert in political communication at St Anselm College, also sees Trump as a special case, partly because he is so prolific in his use of the third person.
But her advice to politicians is not to overuse the technique, as in her view people tend to find it "off-putting", and un-presidential.

"The use of the third person creates an unwelcome distance. We Americans want our presidents to be regular people but not too regular. We still put them up on a pedestal but want them to be humble about it since we put them in office. It's an odd contradiction at times," she says.


http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33943762

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. I am so ashamed
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jul 2017

For a moment, I hoped to myself (in the first person) that maybe he, too, might have a brain tumor. A big one. Really big.

I know it's wrong to hope that. I've just run out of rational things to hope for, like Congressional action. All I'm left with is the g.s. video or a brain tumor.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
13. Note the Pentagon is not asking for more money. This is the laundering scheme that involves the MIC
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jul 2017

Rob the social programs, increase the MIC spending, launder the money through MIC contracts, move the money out of the country: Make America Russia Again!

forgotmylogin

(7,521 posts)
14. I think he was just talking confusingly.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:24 PM
Jul 2017

I think it was supposed to be an appositive phrase: "I, The Wizard of Oz, declare to you..." but his usual train crash clause structure ruins any sort of clarity. Also, the direct object form of that just sounds weird. "Believe me, President Trump, I will..."

"Believe me; I, The Great Trumponi, will make your tax money appear in the pockets of these wealthy oligarchs!"

TrogL

(32,818 posts)
16. I think he's quoting
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:32 PM
Jul 2017

And you will get "believe me. President Trump, I will tell you, you will get it, don’t worry about it."

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
17. Why are we doing this?
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jul 2017

Why are we parsing what he says?

Remember, pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
19. The royal "we"
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jul 2017

He is trying to jam himself in as royalty.
Hobnobbing with kings and real presidents...
Poor fool doesn't realize he's the village idiot.

trof

(54,256 posts)
22. Oh lordy. Now he also has 'Bob Dole Syndrome'.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jul 2017

Bob Dole says 'no' to higher taxes.
Bob Dole doesn't like government handouts.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
23. I saw some of this in a small screen....
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jul 2017

during Joy's show this am. The rage in this guy was barely leashed. He kept grimacing and contorting his face, as if he could hardly keep the vitriol inside. I thought at any second he would just blow sky high. Never witnessed a major public figure doing this.....but the old film of Mussolini raging back in the 30's comes real close.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
29. You know what's scary? All of the tweets saying this was a "powerful," "epic," and "historic" speech
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jul 2017

I just looked on Twitter and there are more tweets saying this was an excellent speech than those saying it was incoherent.

This is crazy. Are these bots?

How can people listen to his disconnected ramblings and say "historic" and "excellent?"

lpbk2713

(42,742 posts)
33. The Russian hackers are still hammering away at their keyboards.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:32 PM
Jul 2017



They will never give up. They have nothing to lose.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
30. Everything he's done is illegitimate
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jul 2017

it should all be reversed in a sane, just America

Yeah, I know, good luck with that

But put them all in jail first

heather blossom

(174 posts)
34. Question
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jul 2017

He is telling military personnel to call their representatives in Congress to push more military spending. I thought active military were not allowed to participate in political activies. Any one know if that is true?

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
36. I love the crowd in the back.....not even paying attention.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jul 2017
he's gone....mind is lost, can't handle the job.
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