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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:20 AM Jul 2017

Trump modeling agency - sex trafficking? I know sounds crazy but...

This would explain so much about Donald.

"We All Knew About the Trafficking"-The Untold Story of Trump Model Management (Part 1)


Back in July of this year, an article written by author Michael Gross about Trump’s modeling company was posted on the Daily Beast. It didn’t receive much fanfare, nor did these tweets-but lets take a look at them for a moment-

@harrysiegel
I've worked with Trump Models "Casting" we all knew of the trafficking

Wade Turnbull (@Wade_Turnbull) July 19, 2016
Asked to explain further, he stated the following:

@harrysiegel
For wealthy businessmen, Buying & selling fake contracts, Unfortunately many model agencies have the same business model

Wade Turnbull (@Wade_Turnbull) July 19, 2016
@harrysiegel
They'd ship in models, Eastern Euro's who had absolutely no chance of working in NYC. It becomes a debt slavery or fresh meat

Wade Turnbull (@Wade_Turnbull) July 19, 2016

These Tweets came from the account of Wade Turnbull. His remarks echo the sentiments of many who have worked with Trump Model Management. Turnbulls remarks are notable in particular because of their timing-They were made a full two months before the Mother Jones article outlining the immigration fraud, financial exploitation and generally deplorable working conditions at Trump’s agency were made public.

It should also be noted that Mr. Turnbull, judging by his Twitter feed, is no fan of Hillary Clinton. This is simply his impression, based on his experience working with this particular agency. And he is far from alone in his views.

About a month ago I came across a Mother Jones article about Trump’s modeling agency and its treatment of a young, largely immigrant workforce. The story was, in a way the height of irony-here was a man who built an entire campaign on his hard-line stance against immigrants, and all the while his business was committing full-scale immigration fraud. But as I read on, I was struck by how much this all resembled the business model of sex trafficking-something I have researched and written about extensively.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/6/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1






Excerpt:

To my astonishment the story disappeared into the ether of the 24/7 news cycle and seemed to be all but forgotten within a week, if that. Barbara Boxer initiated a senate inquiry, which I have been told is now underway. MJ did a short follow up, noting that Trump Models only response was to point out that the story was from “many many years ago” (it actually wasn’t)


Melania Trump sued a relatively unknown Canadian blogger and the Daily Mail over a related story, but otherwise disappeared from public view amid questions about her own strange and inconsistent account of her path to citizenship. And even as Trump ramped up his scathing rhetoric about undocumented immigrants, not one reporter bothered to challenge him on how he squared those public pronouncements with his business practices. Not one reporter asked him how much of his own purported fortune was made on the backs of undocumented immigrants, from his Polish demolition crews to his imported child models, and why that kind of thing was acceptable. The universe basically gave a collective shrug, and moved on.


This OP in DU was almost ignored in October 2016:




https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512476490

Turn CO Blue (4,057 posts)

DailyKos BLOCKBUSTER Diary: "We all knew about the trafficking- The Untold Story of Trump Model Mgt"

link:http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/6/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1|

The diary in the link is probably the bravest and most important diary by a citizen journalist I've ever read.

It's the longform style of writing like in Rolling Stone or The New Yorker, with a narrative type of style that connects people, associations and events over a period of time.

I don't even have the words to express just how engrossing this diary/investigative report is and how I felt a sick, sick brick of dread and import and outrage and "ick" begin to form in my stomach from the very first paragraph.

Be prepared to be pulled in and to spend at least an hour reading this VERY LONG piece of journalism and the comments over there below it.

The first part is the backstory on modelling agencies, the dark side of that industry, and starts making connections between very rich and powerful men, and their financial and physical exploitation of young girls and women, including debt-slavery, molestation and assault.

Part II will apparently be more connections and get more into Trump Model Management, the author's conversations with Trump Models, human trafficking, and is apparently quite explosive and well-resourced.
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Trump modeling agency - sex trafficking? I know sounds crazy but... (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 OP
More info/couple links Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #1
Does anyone know WTH happened to the writer (Rebecca Mesle) of article? Gone since after election Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #2
No wonder he is so worried. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2017 #3
and accusing HRC of doing the same (Pizza-gate) was PROJECTION! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #5
Seems like everything Trump says is projection. Every accusation is an admission of guilt. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #13
He cannot pardon State crimes in State courts like NY, NJ, etc... Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #18
I was going to make a snarky comment about Pizzagate Danascot Jul 2017 #25
+ flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #45
!!! Alice11111 Jul 2017 #51
Another one that caught my eye because of who commented on it. MelissaB Jul 2017 #10
One of the more frustrating dropped stories I've seen Bradical79 Jul 2017 #4
Unbelievable! Just unbelievable. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #6
A perfunctory search seems to show that she is alive and well. GreenEyedLefty Jul 2017 #20
Oh very good! Could you share? I searched yesterday for a couple hours but could not find her! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #21
Google the name GreenEyedLefty Jul 2017 #23
Hmmm? The facebook? Don't see anythng new there, just her resume type info Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #27
Yep her FB profile. It's her. GreenEyedLefty Jul 2017 #29
I don't see recent entries in the facebook? Not sure Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #35
How do you spell KOMPROMAT ?? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #7
A model/actress if they choose can make a very good living as a prostitute. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #8
Which household names? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #12
Look up Cannes and yachts. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #15
Kendall Jenner? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #24
That seems to be a reasonable list. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #30
A friend's child was in (redacted) at 10 years old Not Ruth Jul 2017 #34
That is mostly an urban legend Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #73
k and r .If this can be proven, that Trump was a "sex trafficer" , he is gone "soon" Stuart G Jul 2017 #9
Especially some of them minors! And rumors one girl "Maria" disappeared!?? WTF. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #38
Would they even let this subject out in public? The MSM I mean? bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #66
Are you really confidant of that? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #68
HRC Editorial on Human Trafficking bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #11
The Religious wRong won't mind. Ilsa Jul 2017 #14
I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #16
Crazy? How about plausible? Trump is a reprehensible thing. LS_Editor Jul 2017 #17
Yes, and it would explain so much! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #19
The usual language regarding this from the agencies is: MineralMan Jul 2017 #22
And the evalicals d_r Jul 2017 #26
I don't think it sounds crazy at all and have been wondering JI7 Jul 2017 #28
trump projects. Has anyone checked the basement of his favorite pizza place? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #31
Part 2 to her story is missing as well Sabrinao Jul 2017 #32
Someone above is saying that they see recent entries in her facebook but I don't see any???? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #36
RICO examination here, but what happened bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #33
i've been saying that from jump street. mopinko Jul 2017 #37
No wonder they went after -as in suing- blogger who referred to her "career" Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #40
yup. the least that could happen is that her soft porn shots would get more play. mopinko Jul 2017 #41
Where will trump find his next wife? Gothmog Jul 2017 #39
Prison. volstork Jul 2017 #60
KnR Hekate Jul 2017 #42
Thank you for posting this. No fu***** way this creep whose buddy was a pedo is clean. 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #43
Who cares about pee pee tape? Trafficking in young girls, Alice11111 Jul 2017 #52
They probably wouldn't be mutually exclusive Bradical79 Jul 2017 #71
No they wouldn't, under-age trafficked abuse survivors peeing 58Sunliner Jul 2017 #72
That's what I think it is too. AllyCat Jul 2017 #55
I think you are right. volstork Jul 2017 #61
Nothing sounds crazy when it comes to Trump. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #44
That explains the "Pizzagate" projection. CakeGrrl Jul 2017 #46
I agree. Also it explains IMO him walking in Ms.Teen Universe locker rooms. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #50
Any time they accuse someone else of doing something horrible, they are transferring AllyCat Jul 2017 #56
The Republican family values role model Achilleaze Jul 2017 #47
If you are a decent person the article in Mother Jones will make your stomach turn. FuzzyRabbit Jul 2017 #48
We see what his relationship is now. And it is icky. AllyCat Jul 2017 #57
KICK for exposure Homer Wells Jul 2017 #49
K&R. dchill Jul 2017 #53
Well, it is slowly cruising around FB now. AllyCat Jul 2017 #54
Donald's disgusting ways got no boundaries it seems. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #58
another crime scarytomcat Jul 2017 #59
Someone should send this to Cindy McCain DesertRat Jul 2017 #62
Arthur Conan Doyle bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #63
Remember that Donald's grandpa and great-grandpa ran prostitution establishments. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #64
Really? I have not heard this. AllyCat Jul 2017 #67
Doesn't sound crazy. What would sound crazy after reading those articles is if it was NOT going on. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #65
Kick! inanna Jul 2017 #69
Kick. n/t area51 Jul 2017 #70
While I wouldn't anything past Trump, most American agencies are scrupulously careful Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #74
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
1. More info/couple links
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:21 AM
Jul 2017










Does anyone know what happened to the writer of the article I posted in the OP?

Is she oK? Her last article was about suicide after the election last year:

https://www.dailykos.com/user/SwedishJewfish

https://twitter.com/swedjewfish?lang=en
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
2. Does anyone know WTH happened to the writer (Rebecca Mesle) of article? Gone since after election
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:33 AM
Jul 2017

Does anyone know what happened to the writer of the article I posted in the OP?

Is she oK? Her last article was about suicide after the election last year:

https://www.dailykos.com/user/SwedishJewfish

https://twitter.com/swedjewfish?lang=en

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
5. and accusing HRC of doing the same (Pizza-gate) was PROJECTION!
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:49 AM
Jul 2017

We should've known there was a reason for that weird accusation.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
13. Seems like everything Trump says is projection. Every accusation is an admission of guilt.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:49 AM
Jul 2017

I remember a tweet a couple months ago from someone with intel connections saying that Trump would die in jail. I really hope they get him before he has a heart attack.

I want him to rot for years, not get the easy way out.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
18. He cannot pardon State crimes in State courts like NY, NJ, etc...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:25 AM
Jul 2017

So yeah he & all his surrounding MAGGOTTS could possibly end in jail sooner or later.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
25. I was going to make a snarky comment about Pizzagate
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jul 2017

but seriously, the Pizzagate accusation involved trafficked children and models are often underage so if anything the story could get even worse.

Plus there's that dropped lawsuit where the accuser said she was raped by Trump at a party thrown by Jeffrey Epstein when she was 13.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
4. One of the more frustrating dropped stories I've seen
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:41 AM
Jul 2017

I read a couple related articles last year, and the Melania story, and I'm not happy about how that entire thread was dropped.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
6. Unbelievable! Just unbelievable.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:52 AM
Jul 2017

Know that Donald's lawyer went around viciously threatening people that touched on the subject.

And this writer, where is she?

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
27. Hmmm? The facebook? Don't see anythng new there, just her resume type info
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:01 AM
Jul 2017

Are you talking about the facebook entry? Not seeing anything new there.


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I write on Daily Kos as swedishjewfish-CSA survivor, radfem, working for a world worthy of its children through nonviolent resistence #safetypin #notmypresident. ... ((Rebecca Mesle))‏ @SwedJewFish 26 Oct 2016. ... ((Rebecca Mesle))‏ @SwedJewFish 21 Nov 2016.

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GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
29. Yep her FB profile. It's her.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:09 AM
Jul 2017

Just a guess: she is a freelancer and still writing but it hasn't been picked up nationally.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
8. A model/actress if they choose can make a very good living as a prostitute.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jul 2017

Many do including many household names.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
30. That seems to be a reasonable list.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jul 2017

But actresses/prostitutes have been going on forever. Everyone has heard of the casting couch.

Show business is a dirty business. I would never allow my kids to do so. There are also a ton of pedophiles in show business.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
34. A friend's child was in (redacted) at 10 years old
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:21 AM
Jul 2017

And she would disagree. Probably that most intelligent, grounded, well traveled and over achieving 10 year old that you will ever meet.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
73. That is mostly an urban legend
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:34 AM
Jul 2017

Actors, actresses and musicians merely get better invitations than most people.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
66. Would they even let this subject out in public? The MSM I mean?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:49 PM
Jul 2017

Certain things are not discussed. National Security and all. Or does anything
go after the Clinton impeachment?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
68. Are you really confidant of that?
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:58 AM
Jul 2017

As long as his brainwashed sheeple still support him with a mix of those who believe hate media when they will no doubt push that it's all a fake news attack on their hero, together with the rest that just don't give a fuck, the house and senate GOP don't have to do a damn thing.

I now believe him when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and he'd lose no support

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
11. HRC Editorial on Human Trafficking
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:38 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:18 AM - Edit history (2)

Partnering Against Human Trafficking

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/16/AR2009061602628.html

Here’s How I Plan to End Modern Slavery

https://medium.com/hillary-for-america/here-s-how-i-plan-to-end-modern-slavery-67ca2d07a0d

Googling 'New York' 'Russian' 'escort agency' 'busted' has several hits over the last 20 years

As to whether there are any connections relevant to politics, that is for someone with more
time and zeal to decide

for example:

http://nypost.com/2011/07/20/brooklyn-prostitution-ring-busted/

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
14. The Religious wRong won't mind.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jul 2017

Because trump is on jesus' side now and wouldn't do that any more. Nevermind that even if true, he's never done a damn thing to make amends except marry what might be one of them.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
16. I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:59 AM
Jul 2017

“I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141705027

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
22. The usual language regarding this from the agencies is:
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

"We supply beautiful young women, our models, for events at our stated rates. Each of them is an individual. What they do during those events and afterward is completely up to them. Each of our models makes her own personal decisions."

JI7

(89,247 posts)
28. I don't think it sounds crazy at all and have been wondering
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jul 2017

About this and whether he had connections to this through any of his businesses

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
31. trump projects. Has anyone checked the basement of his favorite pizza place?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jul 2017

Everything he has accused Hillary of, he has done.

 

Sabrinao

(23 posts)
32. Part 2 to her story is missing as well
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jul 2017

Her email is swedishjewfish@gmail.com... has anyone been in contact with her?

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
33. RICO examination here, but what happened
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:20 AM
Jul 2017

to political money laundering, and how many officeholders were involved?

This is almost a footnote from yesteryear

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
37. i've been saying that from jump street.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jul 2017

and i have no doubt that melania did more than "soft porn". cheato likely bought up her "work" before he married her.

the whole thing fits.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
41. yup. the least that could happen is that her soft porn shots would get more play.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jul 2017

or more would surface.
i firmly believe she met him as an escort. she wasnt w his agency, but many are like that.
and let us not forget about jane doe, who said she was lured in to work as a prostitute by promises of a modeling career.

58Sunliner

(4,381 posts)
43. Thank you for posting this. No fu***** way this creep whose buddy was a pedo is clean.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jul 2017

Tired of the abuse of women and children. Tired of the silence.

I don't think the Kremlin has a pee-pee tape. I think they have something worse.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
52. Who cares about pee pee tape? Trafficking in young girls,
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jul 2017

using them for their wild parties...off with their heads, both kinds.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
71. They probably wouldn't be mutually exclusive
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jul 2017

Knowing his tastes, such a recording would probably overlap with this sort of thing

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
55. That's what I think it is too.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

I think even the Fundies would have a hard time supporting 45 if they knew this.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
46. That explains the "Pizzagate" projection.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jul 2017

From the book of Goebbels once again: Anything they accuse Clintons, Obama, etc. of doing is some variant of what THEY are actually doing.

Edit: I see that was noted up above!

I completely believe this about the 'Modeling Agency'. Trump may be better off leaving Mueller in place.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
47. The Republican family values role model
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jul 2017

Comrade casino, also known as the Republican Draft Dodger in chief, clearly has a cesspool for a soul. It's beyond me or any other decent human being, to understand why Republicans submissively worship and follow him. He has no honor

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
48. If you are a decent person the article in Mother Jones will make your stomach turn.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:38 PM
Jul 2017

I read it several months ago, and it still haunts me, especially the part about Trump signing his daughter Ivanka to his agency.

It raises in my mind questions about Trump's relationship with his daughter when she was a teenager.

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
54. Well, it is slowly cruising around FB now.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jul 2017

Lots of people I really think are so disgusted they turn away hoping it is fake news.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
63. Arthur Conan Doyle
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jul 2017

knew the London criminal world. The really big fish, such as Professor Moriarty, run everything with no fingerprints.
The question is, how did he do it? Payoff the politicians, pay well for favors and silence, bring discipline to
the masses to keep them in line, rake in the money.

Robert Ludlum, in his book Apocalypse Watch as I recall, has a page in there where someone testifies that
the country is being sold - the right get their agenda, the mafia get the profits.

Fiction is stranger than fiction.

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
67. Really? I have not heard this.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:27 PM
Jul 2017

On edit: now I have. Was unable to finish reading the full article. Ugh.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
74. While I wouldn't anything past Trump, most American agencies are scrupulously careful
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:40 AM
Jul 2017

All it takes is one immigration officer at JFK getting suspicious about one woman and they're in for a world of bureaucratic or criminal hurt. The disreputable ones involved in porn and prostitution are mostly on the west coast and get their victims to use tourist visas.

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