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The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:16 AM Jul 2017

Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling most successful covert operation in history

Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling was ‘most successful covert operation in history’

“Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history,” Hayden (former director of the NSA and the CIA) told a national security panel in response to a question from moderator Yahoo News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff. Hayden said the original cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee was not that surprising — and even from an intelligence perspective, impressive.

“I just have to admit as a former director of NSA, Russia’s hack and theft of email is honorable state espionage,” Hayden said to audience laughter, speaking at the Aspen Security Conference. “If we as NSA could have an insight into … Russia through the same techniques, game on,” Hayden said. “But now you make the great distinction: What the Russians then did with the information. And then that turned it into what we call a covert influence operation.”

Hayden argued that the release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlin’s egregious act, not the hacks to obtain the information.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, also on the panel, responded that the Defense Department had issued a guideline which said attacks warrant a response if they result in loss of life or serious economic damage.

“The truth is the technology and the techniques that can be used have actually evolved more rapidly than our thinking about it,” Chertoff said. “The value of norms would be it would start to create a basis for law-abiding countries to know when they can respond to a cyber act as if it were an act of war.”

Chertoff's last point, about the technology evolving faster than American thinking, is why the USA has lost the opening engagement of Cold War 2.0, and is now having to play catch-up to an enemy that has already taken the high ground.
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Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling most successful covert operation in history (Original Post) The_jackalope Jul 2017 OP
k and r... Stuart G Jul 2017 #1
Not that successful Turbineguy Jul 2017 #2
"release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlins egregious act" ??? L. Coyote Jul 2017 #3
It wasn't that covert YCHDT Jul 2017 #4
And Trump & Co, and Congressional Republicans still continue growing it's success. n/t woodsprite Jul 2017 #5
Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history, .... DK504 Jul 2017 #6
Everytime I hear the word "meddling" I go off. Try Cyber Attack instead. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #7

Turbineguy

(37,296 posts)
2. Not that successful
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jul 2017

we know about it. Now it's up to trump and the republicans to insure its success. At least Putin has that going for him.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
3. "release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlins egregious act" ???
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jul 2017

Or was it Trump's action!!!!

DK504

(3,847 posts)
6. Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history, ....
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jul 2017

.... Hayden (former director of the NSA and the CIA)"

That's so sweet he considers it "meddling". This was an attack and until the MSM says so, they still aren't doing their job.

Chertoff and his opinions can shove it. He is part of the problem, he didn't secure our technology to begin with, he can fuck off.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
7. Everytime I hear the word "meddling" I go off. Try Cyber Attack instead.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jul 2017

It's like when they say "falsehoods" instead of LIES.

Scaramucci sounds like a male version of Kellanne. He said that Russian didn't do anything because if they had we would never have found out about it since they are so good at spywork, espionage,... Therefore all the intel agencies are wrong. Scaramucci says he knows this is the truth since the Donald told him so.

OK, I believe him now too. Oh look, there goes a unicorn past my window.

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