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Archae

(46,315 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:56 AM Jul 2017

I can't read the Washington Post anymore.

Along with a number of other websites, they "detect" that I'm using Adblock, and that causes the site to block my viewing it.

I use Adblock for a reason, namely, ads are simply far too numerous, and intrusive.
Especially ads that are autorun videos.
Those were really annoying, sometimes causing my browser to crash.

"But...but...we gots ta pay for our sites..."

Bull.

This is not just paying for the site.
It's profiting handsomely from overloads of ads.

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I can't read the Washington Post anymore. (Original Post) Archae Jul 2017 OP
For those instances HAB911 Jul 2017 #1
you can set your browser to allow ads then INdemo Jul 2017 #2
With AdBlock, you can also turn it off for just that page. GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #5
They have specials from time to time. marybourg Jul 2017 #3
I got a great deal on both the NYT and WaPo for digital subscriptions in October last year. tblue37 Jul 2017 #10
Agreed Comatose Sphagetti Jul 2017 #4
How do you you Adblock on iPad? Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #8
I have no clue Comatose Sphagetti Jul 2017 #18
Go to the App Store and download Purify politicat Jul 2017 #22
If sites want people to view their ads, they need to make sure the ads don't ... dawg Jul 2017 #6
True. nt marybourg Jul 2017 #25
Totally this Lord_at_War Jul 2017 #39
Whitelist them and the NYT Dennis Donovan Jul 2017 #7
Seriously, can you suggest how to do that with Chrome and Avast? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #13
When on their site, click the ABP icon in the upper right corner of Chrome Dennis Donovan Jul 2017 #17
Avast has some settings, but I've tried to disable them all for WP muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #23
Agreed. If the ads were less intrusive Lindsay Jul 2017 #9
Simple, quit visiting it or subscribe. n/t USALiberal Jul 2017 #16
I don't even use AdBlock, and it still blocks me muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #11
As a journalist bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #12
Do you subscribe? I do and do not have that issue. boston bean Jul 2017 #14
Same here peggysue2 Jul 2017 #34
Plus if u don't subscribe you only get 5 articles/month. boston bean Jul 2017 #37
I'm also a subscriber with no issues. tammywammy Jul 2017 #38
Wow, so you want free content when they pay reporters, etc? Steal movies and music also? n/t USALiberal Jul 2017 #15
Sometimes they block and sometimes they don't. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #19
It's a vicious cycle bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #21
Newspapers are obsolete. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #32
You may find the joke's on you - marybourg Jul 2017 #27
Adblock allows me some control over the content of what is delivered on my screen. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #29
I read it incognito. appleannie1943 Jul 2017 #20
That works for me as well. procon Jul 2017 #30
Thanks for mentioning that. I didn't know what you were talking about m-lekktor Jul 2017 #33
Turn everything off in your browser mrsadm Jul 2017 #24
I've now been using uBlock Origin. Absolutely easy to toggle it for one site. RKP5637 Jul 2017 #26
The ads at WaPo aren't bad. LeftInTX Jul 2017 #28
Lmaoooooooo at "profiting handsomely." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #31
Oh, yeah bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #35
Got out when I could, about 10 years ago. Life is too short. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #36

HAB911

(8,880 posts)
1. For those instances
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jul 2017

I switch over to whatever IE is called today, for that one session, then back to the other browser

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
2. you can set your browser to allow ads then
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jul 2017

after you read the post just reset browser to block ads..

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
5. With AdBlock, you can also turn it off for just that page.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jul 2017

Deleting all of one's cookies every so often also helps with the intrusiveness.

marybourg

(12,614 posts)
3. They have specials from time to time.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jul 2017

I paid $50 for the year. I look upon it as needed support for an organization (albeit a commercial one) that's doing good work. And obviously, they can't do it for free. Putting up with ads, irritating as they are, makes it free for you, and compensatory for them.

tblue37

(65,312 posts)
10. I got a great deal on both the NYT and WaPo for digital subscriptions in October last year.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jul 2017

I grabbed both.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
4. Agreed
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jul 2017

On some sites Adblock will show 50, sometimes 70+ ads blocked on a single page. That's ridiculous.

You wanna show a few ads to support your site? Fine. Got no problem with it. But it's waaaaaay too much. Before Adblock, on some pages I would literally struggle to find the text I was looking for because ads were so numerous and intrusive.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
8. How do you you Adblock on iPad?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jul 2017

Many sites are unreadable!!!

Switching to Firefox didn't do a thing w/Adblock

WTF?

politicat

(9,808 posts)
22. Go to the App Store and download Purify
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jul 2017

Purify costs $1.99, but the advantage is the developer gets paid by you, not by selling the block list content or the whitelist to the highest bidder (which is Ad Block's revenue model; selling the block list content puts advertisers in an arms race, so Ad Block is effectively helping develop better ad warfare). Also, Purify is less likely to cause problems. Then go into Settings/Safari/Content Blockers and enable Purify.

From any single page, you can white-list that page or domain by tapping the arrow up box, then the Purify Actions symbol. You'll have to reload the page.

I also suggest enabling "Block Pop-ups", setting cookie security to very high, and Do Not Track.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
6. If sites want people to view their ads, they need to make sure the ads don't ...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jul 2017

consume so many resources they crash older systems.

Also, autoplaying videos are an abomination that should not exist.

 

Lord_at_War

(61 posts)
39. Totally this
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jul 2017
"autoplaying videos are an abomination that should not exist.

Especially the ones that are like commercials on TV- about 3 times louder than everything else.

I'm a "big boy" now- intelligent enough to press the play button all by myself if I want to see the video...

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
7. Whitelist them and the NYT
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jul 2017

They've been doing Yeoman's duty with the coverage of the traitorous Trump cabal. They deserve the ad dollars.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
13. Seriously, can you suggest how to do that with Chrome and Avast?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jul 2017

The WP's suggestions for how to whitelist their site just don't work for me.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
17. When on their site, click the ABP icon in the upper right corner of Chrome
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jul 2017

And click "Enabled on this site" to toggle it to "Disabled on this site". I can't speak for Avast, though.

(on edit: I didn't see your post below. Do you have a separate Ad blocking program that might be running in conjunction with with your browser?)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
23. Avast has some settings, but I've tried to disable them all for WP
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jul 2017

Under "URLS to be excluded from scanning and from all shield protection", I have both "https://www.washingtonpost.com*" and "https://www.washingtonpost.com*". I have "https://www.washingtonpost.com*" under "items which should be excluded from Web Shield scanning". Somewhere, and I can't find it now, I found a setting about ad tracking, and I turned that off too.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
9. Agreed. If the ads were less intrusive
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jul 2017

maybe fewer people would block them.

I've had browser crashes as well, along with (not at WaPo) a fake UPDATE YOUR BROWSER NOW! screen take-over that tried to download malware on to my computer. (Fortunately the anti-virus program stopped it.)

Ads are one thing, hostile take-overs are something else entirely.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
11. I don't even use AdBlock, and it still blocks me
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jul 2017

I use Google Chrome, with the free version of Avast and no other ad blocker. I've added the WP site to all the "do not check" lists I can find in Avast. I've told it to allow ad tracking, in case it was that it was objecting to. I have registered with WP, and get an email from them each day as spam that I'm willing to put up with, for access.

And it still blocks me, and gives me no useful clue at all how to change things. It's damn frustrating. I get all kinds of ads on other sites, so I really haven't got settings blocking ads. I'd be quite willing to be served ads by the WP, if they could just do it rather than falsely claiming I'm blocking them.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
12. As a journalist
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jul 2017

Who has worked for a newspaper and online publication for several years, I can tell you that no one in the industry is "profiting handsomely" from online ad sales.

They exist because they help keep the lights on, something that's becoming increasingly difficult for publications to do as print circulation and print advertising continue to collapse.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
34. Same here
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jul 2017

I picked up a Wapo subscription. The paper is doing important work, actual journalism now, something that's critical in the Era of the Orange One.

I've had no problem with excessive ads.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
19. Sometimes they block and sometimes they don't.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jul 2017

They also block to force me to "subscribe."

When they block, I go to any of hundreds of news sites that don't.

Many of them write about what the Washington Post just reported!

I already pay for internet access. I already have targeted "news feeds" and "sponsored news," I'm already being manipulated.

I will not voluntarily have more crap slung at me.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
21. It's a vicious cycle
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jul 2017

Print circulation and print advertising are on crashing declines. There's going to be a point in 15-20 years when newspapers that aren't massive ones (i.e. New York Times) cease to exist. Online ads pay a fraction of what print ads do.

For example, a print ad may cost a company $500. An online ad? Only $50.

As more and more people drop print newspapers, they don't only lose the circulation revenue, advertisers start to pull out. So they have to make up all that lose revenue with online subscriptions and online advertising...both of which don't bring in nearly as much revenue as the print product. So it's not a fair 1:1 trade.

Eventually, papers start shutting down because they simply can't afford to keep running, and quality journalism ceases to exist. And a lot of that is because people aren't willing to subscribe online.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
32. Newspapers are obsolete.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jul 2017

The 'Wall Street Journal' requires a subscription.

I haven't seen an article by them in years! Hera about them occasionally.

Whether they are here or not makes no difference to me. The fact is, they have already ceased to exist for me.

Many local papers require a subscription. I haven't linked to them in years. They have ceased to exist in my world.

If I PAY for a service now, I expect I want all that service has to offer. If ads come with it I will not pay!

And I damn sure won't pay to NOT see ads!

marybourg

(12,614 posts)
27. You may find the joke's on you -
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jul 2017

and all the rest of us - when they go out of business and all that remains is Koch Bros-funded media.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
29. Adblock allows me some control over the content of what is delivered on my screen.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jul 2017

If I want to see 1% of what Washington Post pumps out daily, do I have to give 'the advertisers' my screen - that's the deal? Or worse yet, pay for advertisements like I do with internet service and cable?

Forget it!

As long as I have the option - I'm not going to allow that unwanted content.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
20. I read it incognito.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jul 2017

If I see something I want to read from sites that block people that did not pay, I right click and choose the incognito option to open the link. If you decide to share the article, you can do so by copy and pasting the address to the site.

procon

(15,805 posts)
30. That works for me as well.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jul 2017

I've also found that just a simple pg reload, or a shift|reload, will clear the block in some websites.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
33. Thanks for mentioning that. I didn't know what you were talking about
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jul 2017

so I googled "incognito" and learned about incognito mode on google chrome!! I have this bad habit of knowing only what i need to know to get by and not exploring all the options!

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
24. Turn everything off in your browser
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jul 2017

My husband has everything possible turned off in his browser, including cookies. It can cause some inconvenience (generally you need cookies for online shopping). But it gets rid of nearly all the junk.

I HATE all the ads and I especially despise the auto-run ones, as we have limited bandwidth here in the wilderness.

LeftInTX

(25,225 posts)
28. The ads at WaPo aren't bad.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jul 2017

You can disable Adblock for that particular site.

I find that this is happening with other newspapers - the LA Times and Chicago Tribune.




bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
35. Oh, yeah
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jul 2017

The company that owns the publication I work at has had three rounds of nationwide layoffs in the last four year. The newsroom I work in has less than half the employees we did in 2014.

No one is "profiting handsomely" from online ad sales.

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