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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:23 PM Jul 2017

Small Independent Street front Retail Stores in L.A....

are really being hit with a Shopping Malaise....

I site 2 causes.....When people are uncertain about their lives... in this case all the misery and uncertainity Trump is inflicting on our lives? People have very little interest in taking walks to their local retailers for a fun afternoon or early evenings.. This includes restaurants as well.. I’ve talked to many store owners and all say the same thing.
Sales are really off. And they can’t figure it out..

The other observation I have is that I strongly feel that our economy moves from the bottem up... The fear which undocumented Mexican and South Amwricans have amped up to the point that they rarely leave their homes. The businesses which rely on their purchases,... Bodegas, and other small stores are also having a lot of trouble..

The restaurant and manual labor workers buy from their local shops..The shop owner subsequently has extra money in their pockets and use it for perhaps buying a new washer/Dryer, Flatscreen,...those shop owners perhaps then purchase a new car..

It goes up hill... Vibrant economies do not exist beacuse of Trickle Down Economics.. Fuck You Republicans..

Any other Retailers here experiencing the same difficulties we are?

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Small Independent Street front Retail Stores in L.A.... (Original Post) busterbrown Jul 2017 OP
I'm in Passaic County in NJ no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #1
Wow! n/t busterbrown Jul 2017 #2
How long has that been happening in your area ? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #3
Incrementally for a decade to my best guess. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #5
Ok, thanks. That's tough. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #7
Yes, the money pump works from the bottom up Warpy Jul 2017 #4
Yes, 'even' most Democrats have forgotten it elleng Jul 2017 #8
The rent is too high and the pay is too low. Initech Jul 2017 #6
This is Eko Jul 2017 #9
Nope...Not in My Experience busterbrown Jul 2017 #10
Retail can be different. Eko Jul 2017 #12
Appreciate your comments...but busterbrown Jul 2017 #13
Ok then. Eko Jul 2017 #14
It could be the heat also. I have a small place in a tourist area JI7 Jul 2017 #11
Target CEO Warns That Hispanics May Be Shopping Less womanofthehills Jul 2017 #15
Your lower income and middle class buyers have shifted online Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #16
Correct! and a major reason busterbrown Jul 2017 #17

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
1. I'm in Passaic County in NJ
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jul 2017

It's affecting even fast food chains.

Popeye's Fried Chicken just opened. Good location. Clean. Food tastes good. Open late.

No customers. No cars in parking lot and that's at lunch rush hour.


Even the supermarket near Popeye's has scant cars in the lot. The aisles are clear and make shopping a breeze, but how can they afford to stay open indefinitely?

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
4. Yes, the money pump works from the bottom up
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jul 2017

Even most Democrats have forgotten that. It's why the economy is stalling and ready to collapse again.

Strip malls around here look like meth mouth and it's starting to affect our kitschy area of niche shops and bistros.

Of course they're going to wait for the whole thing to collapse completely before they notice that maybe something's wrong. Then they'll do all the neoliberal shit for a few months and make it far worse.

Then maybe some smart person will catch a fucking clue about what we've known all along.

elleng

(130,732 posts)
8. Yes, 'even' most Democrats have forgotten it
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jul 2017

(assuming, generously, they ever knew/noticed it.) 'Bottom-up' economy has been in a stall, didn't actually recover along with Obama 'recovery' which was largely, imo, 'Wall Street' and selective industrial.

Will take more than ONE smart person, will take many noticing/recognizing AND 'smart people' figuring out how to address it. I'm not sure I've seen any of those (I hope I have, and am just forgetting who and how.)

Initech

(100,038 posts)
6. The rent is too high and the pay is too low.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jul 2017

So people are cutting unnecessary expenses to live. It doesn't take an economic major to figure that out.

Eko

(7,245 posts)
9. This is
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jul 2017

the slowest time of the year for retail. Add to that online sales are increasing. 2016 saw a 15.6% rise in online sales, Brick and Mortar retail stores are doing great if they can maintain last years sales and phenomenal if they are growing at 2% which is rare. If you want to keep retail stores open shop there, don't order online.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
10. Nope...Not in My Experience
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jul 2017

Never in the July and August.... Norm? Movie Goers, Family and friends from out of town..Nights are always warm..
Around here we always did well until after Labor Day.

On line sales for sure has been the thorn in the side of street retail.
But this is different!

Eko

(7,245 posts)
12. Retail can be different.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jul 2017

If you sell canoes and kayaks then the summer months will be higher for you, but for most of retail the middle of June to August is a slow time.


https://datahero.com/blog/2013/12/19/visualizing-holiday-spending/

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
13. Appreciate your comments...but
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jul 2017

As retailers what you are stated is the obvious.. The fact is that the kind of stores I’m referring to including ours understands seasonal uptick merchandise.. What I am saying is that business is very slow and past records show that this is and should be one of the busiest times of the years... It ain’t happening this year.. Bad as it has ever been! PERIOD1

Eko

(7,245 posts)
14. Ok then.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:13 AM
Jul 2017

I am sorry to hear that, I hope it turns around. The store I manage where we do 4 million a year in sales is almost right on track. We are slightly behind on comp for the month and year but ahead on the quarter. We still have a positive ebita for the year. Every year at this time we slow down, as the rest of the retail environment does and picks up in august.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
11. It could be the heat also. I have a small place in a tourist area
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jul 2017

But i haven't opened consistently to get an idea of how things are since i eas busy with other things.

I need to work on selling through internet also.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
15. Target CEO Warns That Hispanics May Be Shopping Less
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 02:00 AM
Jul 2017
“The Hispanic consumer in the U.S. is shopping much less,” Cornell said at the Fortune Brainstorm Tech event Tuesday in Aspen, Colorado. “They are staying home. They are going out less often.”

Cornell didn’t mention President Donald Trump by name, but he talked about a shift in behavior this year and mentioned “border towns” -- where retailers for years have depended on shoppers from northern Mexico for higher revenue. Trump took office in January after promising to crack down on undocumented immigration, especially from Mexico. Purchases by Hispanics at U.S. retailers in categories tracked by researcher NPD Group have fallen 8 percent this year.

“There’s clearly been a pullback” since Trump was elected, said Marshal Cohen, an analyst at NPD. “There’s concern about going out in an environment where you could be deported.”


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/target-s-chief-sounds-alarm-on-pullback-by-hispanic-shoppers
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. Your lower income and middle class buyers have shifted online
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 06:46 AM
Jul 2017

Where goods are cheaper and easier.

Need new ink for your printer? That small independent shop near downtown is a real hassle with parking and such. Staples? They are really high.

Pull out the Amazon app and it's delivered tomorrow for 3.99 overnight shipping and the price was lower than it was in any of the shops too. And it took me 2 minutes instead of 30+ minutes of driving, parking, shopping.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
17. Correct! and a major reason
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jul 2017

why our econonomy stinks.. For a company doing that much business (mostly autamateda)...They use very few employees.

and their pay is mediocre...

I’m in the specialized Boutique business...Amazon can’t so what we do.. Most come in because of our fantastic displays.
So foot traffic is always high no matter what the season.. Same amount of shoppers...They just aint buying

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