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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 02:18 PM Jul 2017

Be Prepared To Be Contract Employee. That's Where Employment Is Heading.

Many younger workers and even older workers face the probability that they will NEVER be an employee officially connect with a company or employer. Uber and Task Rabbit are the new employment model for the future.

Every day run into younger workers who are contract employees just working for a temporary gig. And I am hearing about more and more workers who are just on contracts with "temp" agencies and not the company they are working for. Robert Reich has said that about 40% of the work for is now on a "contingency basis".

The future of employment looks more questionable as more jobs are outsource, offshore and turned into short term contracts. And this business model for work is destined to increase inequality and poverty. Long term economic security will become extinct in this environment. It turns to a "market labor" model that causes workers (no longer employees) to compete for lower and lower wages Competing for work in a hyper competitive model only results in "racing to the very bottom" of wages and benefits.

No one is addressing this terrible business model where workers are savaged by unreasonable competition. That model means they must sell their services for a pittance.

WAKE UP. THE GOP AND TRUMP IN THE END SUPPORT THIS "MARKET BASED LABOR" model. Why do you think they want a market based wage and are against unions?

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Be Prepared To Be Contract Employee. That's Where Employment Is Heading. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jul 2017 OP
If we Democrats don't turn into the Labour Party today the party will perish elehhhhna Jul 2017 #1
I was for a while TlalocW Jul 2017 #2
No One Is Addressing This BUSINESS BULLSHIT. It Does Not Work As A Labor Model. TheMastersNemesis Jul 2017 #3
Happened to my husband in Dec 2016 Paula Sims Jul 2017 #4
At Least You Know The Score. Too Many People Don't TheMastersNemesis Jul 2017 #5
3 Words DAMANgoldberg Jul 2017 #6
Virtually all manufacturing in this area hires initially via temp agencies Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #7
Last company I worked for used that model BASE Jul 2017 #8
Yes the bullshit "Gig Economy" or rather Zero Contract hours. That said I have a great idea for an OnDoutside Jul 2017 #9

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
2. I was for a while
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jul 2017

I still contract for a guy I used to program for, but I'm lucky to get 10 hours a week from him. Fortunately, I had a side business to fall back on to take full time. A lot of people won't be that lucky though.

TlalocW

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
3. No One Is Addressing This BUSINESS BULLSHIT. It Does Not Work As A Labor Model.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:26 PM
Jul 2017

Millions of workers going begging for decent work is a recipe for disaster and failure economically. In the long run it means abject poverty and desperation like we see in the worst 3rd world countries. It means a breakdown of civility and economic anarchy like this country experienced during the depression.

Contract labor like we see it should be illegal. And most contract workers are incorrectly classified. And abuses like we will see is little better than slavery itself.

The Democrats fail by NOT attacking such business practices as immoral and outright thievery. Contract employment is just plain robbery of workers. We cannot survive as a livable country if we make work like the "bear pit military" game. And if you are not familiar with the "'bear pit" it is a game where everyone in the pit is fending for themselves by trying to throw anyone else in the pi out by any means necessary until there is only one person in the pit left. That person wins.

We must have politicians running on FDR's Second Economic Bill Of Rights. People have a God damned right to decent economic conditions.

DAMN IT ALL WE ARE ON THE ROAD TO HELL WITH THE NEW CORPORATE BUSINESS MODEL.

Every day decent long term jobs are turned into "contract employment" or are outsourced or off shored. And ALL occupations are involved.

Paula Sims

(877 posts)
4. Happened to my husband in Dec 2016
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 06:10 PM
Jul 2017

Just got his tacky 5 year watch when given an ultimatum - go temp (we'll call you when we need you, bitch) or job ends. He, at 62, took the temp. But they were kind enough to give him more per hour for the loss of vacation and holidays.

The following week he was having lunch with some coworkers and the owner's son and I was there. The issue was brought up. I said: "good thing you don't have such conversations at the office as they could be considered intimidation and age descrimination."

The owner's son got pale and hubby has been working steadily since...

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. At Least You Know The Score. Too Many People Don't
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jul 2017

The media acts like this new employment norm is just great. The problem is that it won't work for just about every worker. I am seeing how it effects the younger generation and that model leaves them no prospects for the future. It means working until you are dead.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. Virtually all manufacturing in this area hires initially via temp agencies
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:03 AM
Jul 2017

They don't keep you that way, but they do all the initial hiring that way. It's like a probabtionary period on steroids. They don't have to do any HR paperwork because the temp agency does it, and they don't have to do anything if they don't like you or don't think you can handle the job they just tell the temp agency not to send you back the next day.

From what the folks in our HR department tell me it's a preferred model from an HR standpoint because they basically get to audition a bunch of people on the actual job without making and commitment to them or having to do any work in the HR department, and since they are temp they can be let go without being sued or any risk of an allegation, true or not, of any kind of discrimination.

 

BASE

(44 posts)
8. Last company I worked for used that model
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jul 2017

I actually liked working contract better. It was a lot more money for me but they wouldn't let you stay that way very long. After a year or so they would make you hire on direct or let you go.

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