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kentuck

(111,038 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:46 AM Jul 2017

Trump is acting quickly.

He is running scared of Robert Mueller.

He will not wait for an investigation. He will fire everyone necessary to maintain power. He is like a rabid dog backed into a corner.

Even Putin will be surprised by how quickly he handles this little "problem".

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Trump is acting quickly. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2017 OP
I fear you may be right. And the recess appointment is his opportunity. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #1
If they pass the repeal today, they will probably leave for their recess. kentuck Jul 2017 #2
Despite his denials, I believe the AG pick will be Giuliani, not Christie or Cruz Miles Archer Jul 2017 #3
It seems like a bad dream. kentuck Jul 2017 #4
As long as Ryan and McConnell whistle past the graveyard, I don't know what can be done Miles Archer Jul 2017 #9
I think Giuliani might have woken up and smelled the orange jumpsuit. He's generally been Vinca Jul 2017 #7
Another problem with a potential Cruz nomination jmowreader Jul 2017 #19
100% agree. Giuliana or Christie. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #13
Is Christie an ally of the new FBI nominee, Christopher Wray? kentuck Jul 2017 #15
Possibly so. All the trailers were about Giuliana, but Christie was the one who came out to bat for OnDoutside Jul 2017 #16
You are correct about that. kentuck Jul 2017 #17
As his personal Bridgegate attorney, wouldn't that cause a recusal too ? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #18
Watch Rachel piece on this from last night malaise Jul 2017 #30
he is in a bind and he knows it Skittles Jul 2017 #5
Trump would prefer that he resign, for sure. kentuck Jul 2017 #6
Not like a rabid dog blue-wave Jul 2017 #8
Putin is thrilled jberryhill Jul 2017 #10
How about sanctions ? JI7 Jul 2017 #11
A minor inconvenience jberryhill Jul 2017 #23
Maybe, Maybe Not blue-wave Jul 2017 #12
KGOP KristoFascism, Inc. is on a wild rampage Achilleaze Jul 2017 #14
New suspect !!! OnDoutside Jul 2017 #20
Trump needs to think very hard before firing Sessions jmowreader Jul 2017 #21
I think tRump is itching to do a recess appointment MiniMe Jul 2017 #25
If that's his thinking, he better act quick jmowreader Jul 2017 #32
The repubs control those options. MiniMe Jul 2017 #33
Fixed it for you: Trump needs to think. FSogol Jul 2017 #28
He was always going to fire mueller, just waiting for recess appointment njhoneybadger Jul 2017 #22
yes i got that impression as well onetexan Jul 2017 #24
Obstruction of justice in plain sight. Will Congress step up? ecstatic Jul 2017 #26
Mueller & team better be working at light speed. CrispyQ Jul 2017 #27
Heavy pressure needs to be put on McConnell.....asking him if he intends to block Trump..... virtualobserver Jul 2017 #29
Also, will Putin really be surprised? I think trump is following Putin's playbook ecstatic Jul 2017 #31

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
1. I fear you may be right. And the recess appointment is his opportunity.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:56 AM
Jul 2017

I hope the Democrats are ready to react

kentuck

(111,038 posts)
2. If they pass the repeal today, they will probably leave for their recess.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:00 AM
Jul 2017

And he will strike while the iron is hot, in my opinion. My guess is that he has a deal already made with his next AG appointment.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. Despite his denials, I believe the AG pick will be Giuliani, not Christie or Cruz
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:17 AM
Jul 2017

Christie has too much of the stink of corruption on him...instant media target.

Cruz is universally loathed...instant media target.

But despite what we know and discuss regarding Giuliani on DU, he can still inexplicably get mileage out of the 9/11 "America's Mayor" brand.

And in terms of swift, conscience-free and ethics-free action, Giuliani would be the one who could most "effectively" carry out Trump's orders, especially when it comes to firing Mueller.

But yeah, he is acting fast and will continue to do so. The hounds are getting too close.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
9. As long as Ryan and McConnell whistle past the graveyard, I don't know what can be done
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:57 AM
Jul 2017

I'm neither a legal nor political expert.

What I do know is that at some point, it will fall on "Republican leadership" to take action, because since the Democrats are not in the majority, there is nothing they can do in a manner which will produce results.

Democrats can "call for" an unlimited number of actions to take place, and only the "Republican leadership" has the power to act on them.

That said, I don't accept the word "helpless" in any area of my life.

Maybe Trump just needs to run the train so completely off the rails that he flips large chunks of his base.

If we take back the majority in 2018, he's hobbled for the remainder of his first term.

If Republicans hold onto the majority, it's two more years of Ryan and McConnell checking things off of their bucket lists. And after tax cuts for the rich and gutting ObamaCare and the "safety net," what's left?

And realize THIS...if McConnell has his TrumpCare vote today and it PASSES, there's a backdoor deal-in-waiting for every faction he had to appease to get the votes. The "Freedom Caucus" turned their backs on the Ryan bill because it wasn't "extreme enough." These are not team players. If they concede in the moment, it is only because they have been promised something bigger in the long run.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
7. I think Giuliani might have woken up and smelled the orange jumpsuit. He's generally been
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:46 AM
Jul 2017

avoiding cameras and keeping his mouth shut of late. When Rudy shuns the cameras, you know he's worried.

kentuck

(111,038 posts)
15. Is Christie an ally of the new FBI nominee, Christopher Wray?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:38 AM
Jul 2017

That may be the direction it is headed?

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
16. Possibly so. All the trailers were about Giuliana, but Christie was the one who came out to bat for
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:40 AM
Jul 2017

Trump a week or two ago.

EDIT : As his personal Bridgegate attorney, wouldn't that cause a recusal too ?

kentuck

(111,038 posts)
17. You are correct about that.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:42 AM
Jul 2017

It was a little suspicious the way Christie defended Trump a few days ago.

malaise

(268,607 posts)
30. Watch Rachel piece on this from last night
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jul 2017

Wray was one of Christie's lawyers and was being paid by NJ taxpayers for a very long time - may still be on the payroll.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
5. he is in a bind and he knows it
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:33 AM
Jul 2017

Sessions will never quit because he is a power-hungry little rat himself but if Trump fires Sessions even the Deplorables cannot deny collusion

kentuck

(111,038 posts)
6. Trump would prefer that he resign, for sure.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:43 AM
Jul 2017

For the reason you state. He could possibly lose some of his base if he fires Sessions.

blue-wave

(4,341 posts)
8. Not like a rabid dog
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:54 AM
Jul 2017

but he will come out like a cornered rat. I don't doubt it for a moment. Yes, he's running scared and his whole family is threatened. And Putin, I'm sure, is very displeased. Tread carefully America.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. Putin is thrilled
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:15 AM
Jul 2017

Putin has obtained the discord and chaos he sought. He has paralyzed the US. Whether Trump goes under is not Putin's concern.

blue-wave

(4,341 posts)
12. Maybe, Maybe Not
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:24 AM
Jul 2017

Putin must know that America will be much, much wiser after this fiasco. They will not be able to infiltrate like they have recently. Russia might be the bear, but America is the bull that is awakening. I would not want to be Vlad or Donnie.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. KGOP KristoFascism, Inc. is on a wild rampage
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:37 AM
Jul 2017

and American democracy is in the crosshairs - possibly about to be ECLIPSED.

Big Shit about to go down. Some republicans will collude. Other will do nothing to stop it, and betray America by submissively going along.

jmowreader

(50,522 posts)
21. Trump needs to think very hard before firing Sessions
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:11 AM
Jul 2017

The people who will have to sign off on Sessions' replacement know and like Sessions, because before the Tasmanian Devil got inaugurated he was one of them. There's a very good chance they will refuse to bring any new AG candidate in for confirmation hearings...and don't say they can't, they did it with Merrick Garland.

MiniMe

(21,707 posts)
25. I think tRump is itching to do a recess appointment
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jul 2017

That way he doesn't have to worry about pesky Congress thwarting his desires

jmowreader

(50,522 posts)
32. If that's his thinking, he better act quick
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jul 2017

Congress hasn't adjourned for summer vacation yet, they can reconvene quickly, and they can stay in session indefinitely if they have to.

onetexan

(13,018 posts)
24. yes i got that impression as well
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:27 AM
Jul 2017

Sessions in this fake potus' mind is already rabid so he needs to replace him. This position will be a revolving door so he can manipulate and get his way as he pleases.

CrispyQ

(36,411 posts)
27. Mueller & team better be working at light speed.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jul 2017

I hope someone, somewhere has a contingency plan for when this whole thing goes south, cuz it's going south & if everyone plays by the rules but Trump, then we're fucked. The dems have played by the rules for 30+ years while the repubs have been sneaky bastards. The time for taking the high road is over. It's time to get dirty & fight these bastards like there's no tomorrow, cuz that's exactly where we're at.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
29. Heavy pressure needs to be put on McConnell.....asking him if he intends to block Trump.....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jul 2017

from making a recess appointment.

ecstatic

(32,640 posts)
31. Also, will Putin really be surprised? I think trump is following Putin's playbook
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jul 2017

word for word. The playbook (aka advice) is being delivered to Trump via Roger Stone or some other Putin connected "friend."

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