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JUST IN: Boy Scouts release statement after backlash to Trump's speech at national jamboree (Original Post) kpete Jul 2017 OP
Not good enough. Borchkins Jul 2017 #1
Not by a country mile CCExile Jul 2017 #40
Anyone who's been in scouting knows that, BSA gratuitous Jul 2017 #2
Not until I know the Scouts are reprimanded for partisan booing.. . . n/t annabanana Jul 2017 #3
Toxic cilla4progress Jul 2017 #4
So......... no apology. Zoonart Jul 2017 #5
does not promote any one position, product, service, political candidate or philosophy HAB911 Jul 2017 #6
That don't cut it for me workinclasszero Jul 2017 #7
Condemn it? They LOVED it jberryhill Jul 2017 #34
You are most likely right workinclasszero Jul 2017 #36
It may be tradition, but it is not political to condemn a lack of decorum. deminks Jul 2017 #8
Let them know how you feel ChicagoRonin Jul 2017 #9
A Weak Statement On Their Part.... global1 Jul 2017 #10
Weak. The leaders need to denouce Trumps vile speech or RESIGN! Poor leadership will not riversedge Jul 2017 #11
Quite obviously, their opinion of "vile" differs from yours jberryhill Jul 2017 #32
Cheeto had no right to turn the Jamboree into a political rally FakeNoose Jul 2017 #12
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2017 #13
Way to say absolutely nothing so basically anyone who is invited to speak can see anything they want Snake Plissken Jul 2017 #14
So why did 35,000 scouts submit to Hitleresque ananda Jul 2017 #15
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #23
Indeed it is... CCExile Jul 2017 #41
Weak as water. No. Not good enough at all. Achilleaze Jul 2017 #16
I pledge allegiance Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #17
This: tblue37 Jul 2017 #20
Remember that vividly Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #22
They are pulling a Pontius Pilate, allowing a wrong while claiming not to be tblue37 Jul 2017 #18
Exactly! n/t Brainstormy Jul 2017 #21
Too little, to late. volstork Jul 2017 #19
They need feedback on this. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #24
I also think the local scout troops need feedback! Lars39 Jul 2017 #29
wow. barbtries Jul 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #26
They should also have been aware that no matter where he speaks or how inappropriate it is, tblue37 Jul 2017 #33
Exactly. Entirely predictable! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #37
Pathetic non-excuse. JenniferJuniper Jul 2017 #27
"vee kan't help eet eef zee kinder lahvv ze fuhrer!" unblock Jul 2017 #28
What a load of crap!!! atreides1 Jul 2017 #30
That was lame. nt raccoon Jul 2017 #31
As "Good German" as anyone could possibly be Zambero Jul 2017 #35
This is consistent with BSA policy Gothmog Jul 2017 #38
WEAK. nt Maven Jul 2017 #39
Boy Scouts of America should seek a culture overhaul via consultation. nt oasis Jul 2017 #42
Such bravery!!1 GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #43
That's actually pretty defiant. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #44
What a weak, useless statement! NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #45

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Anyone who's been in scouting knows that, BSA
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jul 2017

Why didn't you explain that to the madman you invited to address the Jamboree yesterday? And what are you going to do to repair your error and make sure it doesn't happen again?

Zoonart

(11,847 posts)
5. So......... no apology.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jul 2017

They are dead to me. That exhibition last night was the scariest thing yet in this reign of terror by Donnie 2scoops.
I am very concerned (Democrats words) that the Republic is lost.

WHere are the elected Democrats in this? Where is their anger?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. That don't cut it for me
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jul 2017

The leadership of the scouts need to hold a national press conference and condemn Trump's horrible political speech in no uncertain terms!

The pussy grabber is the worst speaker they could have invited to speak in front of those kids and they know it!

NO EXCUSES! I am an ex-scout from long ago who will spend the rest of my life in opposition to the BSA if they don't do this I guarantee that!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. Condemn it? They LOVED it
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

I'm getting the distinct impression that a sizeable chunk of folks on DU don't "get" the BSA, and assume they would be in any manner offended by anything Trump did or said.

That's ridiculous. They were cheering it on the whole time. It's who they are, and what they are about.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. You are most likely right
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jul 2017

Well then the BSA leadership needs to come out 100% for fucking republicanism and Fuhrer Dump and stop trying to pretend to be neutral!

Go full on Hitler/Trump youth BSA so we can put you in with all the other fascist hate groups like skinheads and the KKK.

Stop beating around the bush liars!

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
9. Let them know how you feel
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:14 AM
Jul 2017

Boy Scouts of America (BSA)

National Service Center Contacts
General Scouting questions, 972-580-2000
Parent and volunteer inquiries, 972-580-2489


BSA Foundation Contacts
Estate planning and major gift inquiries, 972-580-2219

global1

(25,241 posts)
10. A Weak Statement On Their Part....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jul 2017

and far from an apology. They should have said something to address the behavior by the crowd - leaders and scouts - that it was unbecoming of them and certainly not in line with the Scout Laws (i.e., Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverent.)

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
11. Weak. The leaders need to denouce Trumps vile speech or RESIGN! Poor leadership will not
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:16 AM
Jul 2017

to tolerated in the boy scouts should be the response!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. Quite obviously, their opinion of "vile" differs from yours
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jul 2017

These people have no issue with anything he said, or any values he represents. None.

FakeNoose

(32,626 posts)
12. Cheeto had no right to turn the Jamboree into a political rally
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

The BSA should have stopped this immediately but they didn't.

They allowed themselves (and the innocent children) to be used shamelessly by this charlatan.

Never again! Keep Trump away from these children who don't understand what they're cheering for.
But Trump will use them anyway because he has to get an adoring audience somehow.



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

It is obvious where this country is headed. What scary times when a sitting potus is ruining the next generation or two with poisonous politics.....sad indeed what the DEPLORABLES HAVE GIVEN us. A useless, to the american people, puppet of bannon.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
15. So why did 35,000 scouts submit to Hitleresque
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jul 2017

crowd manipulation and act like they were
brainwashed ..

.. just like the Hitler youth in the 30's?

This has nothing to do with what the "organization"
may or may not stand for.

This is fascism on steroids.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. Weak as water. No. Not good enough at all.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jul 2017

No courage, no honor, no respect.

The BSA has shit the ethical bed.

Now they must live with the foul stench they have so cravenly permitted, a stench that will drive decent people to distance themselves from a once-great but now degenerate institution.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. Remember that vividly
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jul 2017

First time in DC

On way to Yurp

44 years ago

Chilling then, horrifyingly portentous now

tblue37

(65,307 posts)
18. They are pulling a Pontius Pilate, allowing a wrong while claiming not to be
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jul 2017

responsible.

They need to say outright that Trump's comments were inappropriate--deplorable, even.

Response to kpete (Original post)

tblue37

(65,307 posts)
33. They should also have been aware that no matter where he speaks or how inappropriate it is,
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

and even if he has prepared remarks, he almost always departs from the prepared text to brag about his election, to slam Obama and Hillary, to deride the free press as "fake news," and to spew innumerable other lies and insults against anyone who doesn't obey or praise him or anything that doesn't serve his ego.

That sort of behavior during his speeches is predictable, because with only a couple of exceptions (like when he read his SOTU address without adlibbing), that is what he always does, no matter where he is speaking or what he is supposed to be speaking about.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
30. What a load of crap!!!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:39 AM
Jul 2017

Then someone should have told him, but the BSA hierarchy, either didn't have the courage to tell him...or agree with his views!

I'll bet, before the end of the year the BSA will be changing their policy on gay and transgender scouts and leaders!!!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
35. As "Good German" as anyone could possibly be
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:52 AM
Jul 2017

By ignoring and not condemning Trump's actual remarks, BSA is giving tacit approval to them and essentially inviting him back for another round of hate speech.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
45. What a weak, useless statement!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

We KNOW that inviting a U.S. president is a "long standing tradition" and that the BSA is supposed to be non-partisan. They needed to condemn Trump's remarks in the strongest possible terms. They missed what could have been a teachable moment for the Scouts themselves.

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