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Botany

(70,445 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:55 AM Jul 2017

I was a Boy Scout and I am pissed

Years ago I was in a troop in N.W. PA and one of the members was my
next door neighbor and his dad was the county DA and his uncle was Governor
of PA, Ray Shafer. Ray was a great guy, we would see him all the time,
and he was a republican too.

Governor Shafer would sometimes be at Boy Scout functions and he would have
never dreamed of bringing partisan politics into a scout function.

The little I could stomach of Trump at the National Jamboree made me sick.

BTW I still use things I learned in the Scouts almost every day too. Things like
tying a bowline on a bight, tying a square knot, how to build a fire, and bitching
about the weather will not change anything so just move on and do what needs to be
done.

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I was a Boy Scout and I am pissed (Original Post) Botany Jul 2017 OP
Same here workinclasszero Jul 2017 #1
I remember my dad, the governor, and his brother talking @ a scout function .... Botany Jul 2017 #2
Agreed workinclasszero Jul 2017 #5
Trump is the antithesis to every word on that list workinclasszero Jul 2017 #7
These kids are innocent, they didn't know what was happening FakeNoose Jul 2017 #4
was it a recording that boo'ed" mercuryblues Jul 2017 #9
They're at a Jamboree FakeNoose Jul 2017 #10
Same here. I am an Eagle Scout and both of my sons too. FSogol Jul 2017 #3
Boy Scouts CountAllVotes Jul 2017 #6
well then you had a shitty GS troop in your area mercuryblues Jul 2017 #11
Rich WASP area CountAllVotes Jul 2017 #12
That's it right there mercuryblues Jul 2017 #13
I was a scout leader and my son attended the 2001 Jamboree Gothmog Jul 2017 #8
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
1. Same here
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jul 2017

Former scout from about 45 years ago or so. (damn I'm old LOL)

Trump continues his Shit All Over America tour and takes a giant dump on the BSA this stop.

The scouts were booing Hillary and former scout President Obama though. They share the blame as well.

Botany

(70,445 posts)
2. I remember my dad, the governor, and his brother talking @ a scout function ....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jul 2017

.... about how politics had no place in scouting. Having scouts boo somebody
@ a national jamboree was shameful. It was 100% against the scout pledge.

A Scout is:

Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Agreed
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jul 2017

Someone else said on one of these threads that a country's scouting organization must be politically neutral to be a part of worldwide scouting.

If so the USA scouts are in trouble IMO.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Trump is the antithesis to every word on that list
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jul 2017

Who thought it was a good idea to invite him to make a speech??

FakeNoose

(32,568 posts)
4. These kids are innocent, they didn't know what was happening
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jul 2017

Don't blame the kids, Trump is absolutely shameless. He has no right to turn a Boy Scout Jamboree into a Trump rally.
It's because he can't find a non-judgmental, adoring audience anywhere else now.

The BSA organization shouldn't have let this happen. They owe the parents and kids a very big apology and promise that it will never happen again. Parents are absolutely livid as they should be. They're posting their reactions on the Facebook page and I'm sure they're calling the BSA office in Texas.

FakeNoose

(32,568 posts)
10. They're at a Jamboree
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jul 2017

Their parents aren't there to explain what's happening. You can't blame these kids.

FSogol

(45,441 posts)
3. Same here. I am an Eagle Scout and both of my sons too.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jul 2017

I've been involved in scouting in some aspect since 1972. Trump's appearance is definitely a low point. The National organization needs to apologize.

CountAllVotes

(20,866 posts)
6. Boy Scouts
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jul 2017

In my day, it was for the rich kids. Those uniforms etc. cost a lot of money. My brother got to be a Boy Scout but what about the Girl Scouts?

Answer: Uniform is too expensive and you are a girl so forget it! That is what I was told.

The right winger across the street has a son in it and so does this other idiot winger across the way. Whatever they teach, one thing lacking is respect for others I've noted over the years.

Boy Scouts ...

Reserved for males only as the Girl Scouts sell their cookies.





mercuryblues

(14,521 posts)
11. well then you had a shitty GS troop in your area
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jul 2017

When I was a leader, I did not require a uniform. I did require sashes. That is why when I handed out patches to 1st timers they came already sewn on a sash. If the girls stayed in scouting I would get them a shirt with cookie money sales. I also started a can recycling program. every few months I would take the cans and sell them at the recycling place.
the district never had a problem with our girls not in full uniform. They knew these girls were from poor rural areas.

mercuryblues

(14,521 posts)
13. That's it right there
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jul 2017

They used the uniform as an excuse. Where I went out of my way to get girls to join and stay involved. I would love to know where they are now.

Gothmog

(144,908 posts)
8. I was a scout leader and my son attended the 2001 Jamboree
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

My son is an Eagle and attended the 2001 jamboree. We are both pissed

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