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global1

(25,224 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:39 PM Jul 2017

I Keep Hearing The Term "Constitutional Crisis" Bandied About On The Cable News Shows - But....

what exactly will that look like? What is a 'constitutional crisis'? Who labels or identifies it as such? How will the two Parties (Dems & Repugs) react to it? Essentially - what happens in a 'constitutional crisis'?

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I Keep Hearing The Term "Constitutional Crisis" Bandied About On The Cable News Shows - But.... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2017 OP
Nothing SoCalMusicLover Jul 2017 #1
I guess it means.. SHRED Jul 2017 #2
In this case, extreme executive overreach by Trump could bring about a constitutional crisis. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #3
How about the Supreme Court rules that a Trump executive order is unconstitutional... Girard442 Jul 2017 #4
Yep, I sure do. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #5
Gee Whiz,and new Narrative. Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #6
Trump fires Sessions and Mueller - halts Russia investigation. jpak Jul 2017 #7

emulatorloo

(44,063 posts)
3. In this case, extreme executive overreach by Trump could bring about a constitutional crisis.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jul 2017

For example, Firing Mueller and killing the Trump/Russia investigation, thereby putting himself above the law. Conflict then between Executive Branch and Congress. Girard has a great example below.

Wiki definition is not too bad, watergate historians probably a good resource:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis

Constitutional crisis
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A constitutional crisis is a situation which a legal system's constitution or other basic principle of operation appears unable to resolve; it often results in a breakdown in the orderly operation of government. Often, generally speaking, a constitutional crisis is a situation in which separate factions within a government disagree about the extent to which each of these factions hold sovereignty. Most commonly, constitutional crises involve some degree of conflict between different branches of government (e.g., executive, legislature, and/or judiciary), or between different levels of government in a federal system (e.g., state and federal governments).

A constitutional crisis may occur because one or more parties to the dispute willfully choose to violate a provision of a constitution or an unwritten constitutional convention, or it may occur when the disputants disagree over the interpretation of such a provision or convention. If the dispute arises because some aspect of the constitution is ambiguous or unclear, the ultimate resolution of the crisis often establishes a precedent for the future. For instance, the United States Constitution is silent on the question of whether states may secede from the Union; however, after the secession of several states was forcibly prevented in the American Civil War, it has become generally accepted that states cannot leave the Union.

A constitutional crisis is distinct from a rebellion, which is defined as when factions outside of a government challenge that government's sovereignty, as in a coup or revolution led by the military or civilian protesters.

A constitutional crisis can lead to government paralysis, collapse, or civil war.

Girard442

(6,065 posts)
4. How about the Supreme Court rules that a Trump executive order is unconstitutional...
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:49 PM
Jul 2017

...and he says, "Screw them! We're doing it anyway."

That would do it, don't you think?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Gee Whiz,and new Narrative.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jul 2017

So the Media created so called President has become boring to the Media and now they want to create a new story. Anything that changes the Subject Matter of Russian theft of our Electronica System,and a POS called Republican Health Care.

Watched the Pivot start yesterday during Schummer's Presser. Get use to it,this will be the Soup-de-jour for the next 18 months. The big money made their move over the week end,just watch the commentary by the Senators who voted to Proceed.

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