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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:52 AM Jul 2017

Moments In Straight Up Cognitive Dissonance

In 2010, Known As The Liberal Lion, Senator Ted Kennedy Bravely Returned To Capitol Hill While Fighting A Terminal Brain Tumor To Vote To Give Healthcare For Millions Of Americans That Did Not Have It.

In 2017, Known As The Guy Walks Loudly But Carries A Trump Hand Size Little Stick, Senator John McCain Returned To Capitol Hill While Having A Terminal Brain Tumor To Vote To TAKE AWAY Healthcare For Millions Of Americans That Now Do Have It -- Voting Affirmatively For The McConnell/Cheeto Trump Repeal & Replace Option.

What Does This Say About Ted Kennedy In Comparison To John McCain? Kennedy Will Always Be A True American Hero and Patriot To Give To Others Something He Knew He Would Not Have For Much Longer. Healthcare.

McCain, Meanwhile Is a Self-Focused Con Artist Who Only Cares For Moments Of Attention In Front Of A Camera For However Many Days He Has Left, While He Boldly Sentences Others To Die Quickly, By Taking Away Their Healthcare.

Cognitive Dissonance explained in a nutshell. - Independent Underground Radio Network

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Moments In Straight Up Cognitive Dissonance (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 OP
He should hang his head in shame. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #1
Yes Indeed... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #6
he would actually have to possess, and use, a conscience, which, clearly, he does not have. niyad Jul 2017 #17
This is true irisblue Jul 2017 #2
I mentioned that to my husband just this morning. Vinca Jul 2017 #3
How do they win? annabanana Jul 2017 #4
They "Win" Elections By..... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #5
And by spreading hate and fear. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #9
They win by uniting their minions in hatred of us FiveGoodMen Jul 2017 #18
So very true. There needed to be a massive counter-RW-errorism response Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #19
It sounds to me like watoos Jul 2017 #7
Condolences For Your Lost.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #8
Not the direct comparison graphic I would like, but here are some images on point Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #10
Actually, cognitive dissonance means having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #11
Thank You....BUT... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #12
No, that is the politics of privilege and entitlement. There is no dissonance. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #13
No Need.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #14
I'm going to stick with the definition everyone uses. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #16
More. LWolf Jul 2017 #15
I beginning to regret wishing Sen. McCain well. raven mad Jul 2017 #20

niyad

(113,074 posts)
17. he would actually have to possess, and use, a conscience, which, clearly, he does not have.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jul 2017

read the piece from rolling stone about him (on greatest page) and prepare to sickened.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
3. I mentioned that to my husband just this morning.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:16 AM
Jul 2017

Ted fighting to give people health care, McCain trying to take it away. How do they win elections?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
18. They win by uniting their minions in hatred of us
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jul 2017

Of liberals, the left, whatever name they think is effective.

They win with hate radio and above all...

They win by enlisting people's gateway to heaven (the god damned preachers) to sell their very un-Jesus-like message.

They win with propaganda that comes at us from every side, never lets up, and is never really countered.

When they go low ... our party's reps don't have it in them to fight back.



Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
19. So very true. There needed to be a massive counter-RW-errorism response
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jul 2017

from Dems to combat all the misinformation spread by the RW Propaganda Ministry. Instead, too many Dems decided to try to be more like Rs than to denounce them. A lot of it being due to the corrupting influence of money in politics.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. It sounds to me like
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jul 2017

McCain has the same kind of brain cancer my mother had. I believe that my mother's cancer was farther along than Mccain's though. Mom was doing things that had us worried, like sending 2 or 3 Christmas cards to the same person. My mom was a saint, she was involved in every non profit, non-paying organization in our little borough.
Mom was operated on in Presbyterian (UPMC) hospital in Pittsburgh, had bleeding and was operated on again. The doctor said we would have 3 to 6 months of quality time left with her, he was wrong, the time was shorter, and it was not quality, it was not my mother. She was totally confused about everything and worst of all, became mean to her dedicated and loving husband.

Maybe McCain's cancer isn't as large or located in a bad place in his brain, but as his doctor said after he operated on him, it's going to come back, that's the same thing they told my mother.

I wish McCain well but I also wish McCain's family well in dealing with what is coming.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
11. Actually, cognitive dissonance means having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 10:06 AM
Jul 2017

It is not a comparative of distinct persons or events, it is when when beliefs do not match behaviors.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
12. Thank You....BUT...
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 10:11 AM
Jul 2017

We're just fine with our definition of Cognitive Dissonance. In This Case, A Man (Senator) with a likely TERMINAL Brain Tumor is voting against keeping Tax-Payer Sponsored Healthcare for others who might or could in the future have a similar medical condition as his own -- while he continues to have Tax-Payer Paid Governmental Healthcare.

That is cognitive dissonance. Plain and simple.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. No, that is the politics of privilege and entitlement. There is no dissonance.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jul 2017

They have plenty of rationalizations for what they are doing. The rich think they are entitled to good health care and that the lazy poor people need to get off their asses and get a good job if they want to have health care. Those who are blessed by God deserve the best, those who God does not bless are getting what sinners deserve, etc. Communism is a tool of the devil ..... I could go on at length.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. No Need....
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jul 2017

As We Severely Agree To Disagree and As a Person Who Is WELL-STUDIED on Psychology, Philosophy as well as Sociology subject matters, this discussion will go nowhere fast but downhill -- and we don't want to step in the mud.

McCain's actions are the definition Cognitive Dissonance. That's OUR belief and it's not changing today, tomorrow, next week or ever.

Have a great afternoon.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
15. More.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jul 2017

If you listened to what he had to say before he voted, you might have thought he would have voted no. That's more dissonance.

Ted Kennedy as a liberal lion also has it's share of dissonance. Maybe it's because I'm a teacher, and I know that TK helped usher in the modern educational reform movement, along with D George Miller. "Liberal" and "NCLB" offer quite a bit of cognitive dissonance.

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