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Is tRump's Trans Ban Based on Xian Extremism or Destroy Obama's Legacy Conservatism? (Original Post) stopbush Jul 2017 OP
It's based on Fucking Over Democrats in 2018 leftstreet Jul 2017 #1
Anybody who votes against a D because of this is already lost. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #5
Exactly Proud liberal 80 Jul 2017 #11
I think he's feeding red meat to his christofascist base The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2
Spot on. And it takes MSM running off in a different direction for a few hours. Cynical B'stard. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #3
Have you discussed what the Senate is doing to day? Look at the posts. How many are healthcare? tonyt53 Jul 2017 #4
He wants to shift the liberal ire off of healthcare. unitedwethrive Jul 2017 #6
Neither. It's a distraction to change the tv news coverage. Don't fall for it. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #7
It's today's distraction; that's all Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #8
both... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #9
It's What They Have Been Doing Right Out Where Everyone Can See Leith Jul 2017 #10
Since they are both based on bigotry .. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #12
Neither? Igel Jul 2017 #13

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
1. It's based on Fucking Over Democrats in 2018
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jul 2017

It's an attempt to put Democrats on the defensive in vulnerable states

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
5. Anybody who votes against a D because of this is already lost.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jul 2017

This doesn't preclude many people who will vote for a D in spite of this.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
2. I think he's feeding red meat to his christofascist base
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:08 PM - Edit history (1)

to shore up their support for when the Russia investigation gets worse for him and mainstream GOPers start defecting. Also allowing trans people in the military was one more thing Obama did, and Trump is trying to get rid of all traces of Obama.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
4. Have you discussed what the Senate is doing to day? Look at the posts. How many are healthcare?
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jul 2017

THIS is the reason for the announcement. The GOP learned when bush was running against Kerry. Remember every time Kerry was poised for a nice "bounce"? A credible threat to the US was announced and people too their eyes off of Kerry. Trump isn't smart enough to do this. But the GOP sure had al the pieces in place and the knowhow.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
6. He wants to shift the liberal ire off of healthcare.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jul 2017

And Russia. He needed to find an issue that would really get progressives fired up, so that the healthcare bill would get less attention and pass quickly.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
8. It's today's distraction; that's all
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jul 2017

They're getting more and more desperate. Scraping the bottom of the barrel

Scamooch doesn't have much more to work with, so we'll be seeing the wagging dog before much longer

Somebody start a pool

Leith

(7,808 posts)
10. It's What They Have Been Doing Right Out Where Everyone Can See
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jul 2017

Since Gingrich was speaker. The reichwing Congress and their media mouthpieces on TV, radio, and print have been working on for decades - destroy everything liberal. WE are the enemy they need to keep their minions in line and ready to fight.

I have come to the conclusion that human beings just aren't that intelligent. We're basically chimpanzees with electronic devices.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
13. Neither?
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jul 2017

I suspect he just thinks what he's doing is right.

"Xian extremism" would imply he's aware and cares about what others think, and is acting because of that. I doubt the first as well as the second.

Trump doesn't like Obama. But I think he defines himself in terms of Obama rather less than we do. A lot of what (R) didn't like about Obama were his policies. If he'd been Barry O'Barnes, they'd still be out gunning for his GLBTQI policies (and a lot of other ones). I just don't think may would have said, "Ooh, look, the president's white, so while I've been against gay marriage and letting gays in the military since I was 13, I'm going to go along with him on this because even though he's a Democrat and I hate this policy, well, he's got a really swell skin color." His race didn't help, his approach didn't help, but sometimes policy differences really are just policy differences.

I go with Occam here.

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