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BREAKING: Trump may veto Russia Sanctions bill (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2017 OP
I believe there are enough votes to override rumpy veto riversedge Jul 2017 #1
I was going to ask that itcfish Jul 2017 #20
Of course he will jberryhill Jul 2017 #2
Not surprised. He wouldn't want to offend his comrades. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #3
He can't. He dares not. dchill Jul 2017 #7
Yep! They have to have volumes on this guy. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #13
Decades of it. dchill Jul 2017 #17
It seems to me that a veto to an overwhelming vote in favor of sanctions no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #22
Trump IMO is so far in over his head he's thrashing around. Plus, he has to be nervous as hell about RKP5637 Jul 2017 #24
And there is the quid pro quo Foamfollower Jul 2017 #4
Probably use the excuse France and Germany against Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2017 #5
As a German, I don't understand my government Ezior Jul 2017 #29
Okay, Republican members of Congress. Time to put up or shut up. dawg Jul 2017 #6
whatever putin wants, putin gets spanone Jul 2017 #8
I hope (R) have the balls to override HAB911 Jul 2017 #9
Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #10
He's basically a Russian agent in the WH IMO! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #15
Yes; a Russia Agent who the Republican are covering for! Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #21
I dare him to fire Sessions then veto sanctions. Why not just scream "I'm a little Putin puppet" NightWatcher Jul 2017 #11
If the GOP allows these events, the bloodless coup is complete. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #18
If he does the headline should read, Trump Weak, Caves to Russia's Threats WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #12
dont see the point. drray23 Jul 2017 #14
And a veto goes all the more to show how guilty this crook is! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #16
He probably thinks "Veto Sanctions" was a character on the Sopranos Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #19
That's a good one 😀 FM123 Jul 2017 #28
Congress can override the veto. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #23
Trump must show Putin he's doing all he can. oasis Jul 2017 #25
$500 Billion Russian Oil Deal Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #26
This could get interesting get the red out Jul 2017 #27
Trump does not want Putin to release the pee tape Gothmog Jul 2017 #30
Putin to trump: tavernier Jul 2017 #31
Trump is afraid that Putin will release the pee tape Gothmog Jul 2017 #32
Yes, and he wants to show Putin that he veto'ed... MyNameIsKhan Jul 2017 #33
"No puppet. No puppet." dalton99a Jul 2017 #34

no_hypocrisy

(46,036 posts)
22. It seems to me that a veto to an overwhelming vote in favor of sanctions
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jul 2017

is proof that Trump has an obligation(s) to Russia. He has to prove to his benefactors that he did everything possible, but he failed.

If I understand correctly, there are new sanctions against Iran with the Russian sanctions. Trump would be vetoing sanctions against Iran after bloviating for them.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
24. Trump IMO is so far in over his head he's thrashing around. Plus, he has to be nervous as hell about
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:50 AM
Jul 2017

the investigations, so he's looking, somehow, for Russia to bail him out yet again. I really view this guy as a Russian agent operating in the WH.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
5. Probably use the excuse France and Germany against
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:10 AM
Jul 2017

Sanctions

Heard last night both countries saying sanctions possibly illegal.

Ezior

(505 posts)
29. As a German, I don't understand my government
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jul 2017

They appear to accept anything from Putin just as long as we can buy his cheap gas. Sickening. Also, parts of the German population are just stupid when it comes to foreign policy and defence. Like .. they want to exit NATO, kick out US troops and get rid of our army (because "soldiers are murderers" ), then "just get along with Russia". WTF? And it appears like those are not just 10% but maybe a sizable minority...

It surprised me just a little bit that the SPD party is against sanctions – their former chancellor Schröder is a Putin fanboy and works for Gazprom since he lost his job in Berlin. The CDU/CSU parties usually side with the US on foreign policy though. This time, they don't. Why do they want 60% of natural gas used in German supplied by Putin instead of the current 40%? After all the bad things Putin did in the last couple of years... Are some of them in Putins pocket, too?

dawg

(10,621 posts)
6. Okay, Republican members of Congress. Time to put up or shut up.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:11 AM
Jul 2017

I know I'm a partisan, so my views may be a little biased. But I can't see how anyone could ignore what has gone down at this point.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. I dare him to fire Sessions then veto sanctions. Why not just scream "I'm a little Putin puppet"
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:15 AM
Jul 2017

It's essentially the same thing

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
12. If he does the headline should read, Trump Weak, Caves to Russia's Threats
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jul 2017

That should pissed him off bigly.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-26/russia-says-new-u-s-sanctions-killing-chances-for-improved-ties

Trump got his marching orders from his 'dear leader' Putin and evidence of Russia's cyberwar on our country be damned. Putin must have some REALLY juicy stuff on him.

drray23

(7,619 posts)
14. dont see the point.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jul 2017

congress has more than enough votes to override his veto and they will. 417 to 4 in house and 98 to 2 in senate...

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
26. $500 Billion Russian Oil Deal
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:56 AM
Jul 2017

All of this is about the deal between one of Putin's shell companies and Exon. They are looking for a waiver of the sanctions to get this massive deal done that would put $billions into the pockets of Russian mobsters. It's the whole reason why Russia attacked our Democracy, because Hillary and Obama killed the waiver. Trump put Exon's former head, Tillerson, in charge of the state department as a signal to Putin that he was serious about getting this deal done. The strengthening of sanctions makes the waiver less and less likely.

It's the last line in the sand for Trump, if this deal is dead for good he is of little use to Putin who will then burn him because creating chaos in the US is Putin's fall back plan.

I keep repeating this, because it's simply not discussed enough. This deal is the whole reason for the nightmare that is happening. In a country with a more responsible press every person in the country would know about this deal and what it means to Trump and Putin.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
31. Putin to trump:
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jul 2017

I have a big pocket in my trousers full of secrets, and it has developed a hole. I don't wish for all these secrets to escape, but unfortunately, with the American sanctions, I can't afford to buy a needle and thread. Do we understand each other?

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