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Footage of the fall of Berlin 1945...interesting. (Original Post) SummerSnow Jul 2017 OP
Fascinating! Thank you! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #1
Sure was. A second thanks. nt Blue_true Jul 2017 #21
Interesting. Thanks shraby Jul 2017 #2
K&R. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #3
Interesting that you don't see any fat people...n/t mitch96 Jul 2017 #4
Interesting, five pounds of black market butter was worth a king's ransom back then Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #9
"five pounds of black market butter" mitch96 Jul 2017 #10
... kcr Jul 2017 #12
Cool hibbing Jul 2017 #5
Bookmarked for later - so many thanks for posting this, Snow!! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #6
Any info on who made the video? IronLionZion Jul 2017 #7
Here it is. SummerSnow Jul 2017 #13
Lessons winetourdriver01 Jul 2017 #8
I am getting the impression that military leaders Blue_true Jul 2017 #23
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #11
Could easily have been titled "German Exceptionalism" mikeyDE Jul 2017 #14
Never Again! apkhgp Jul 2017 #15
Wow--as a guy who has spent 45 years in construction, panader0 Jul 2017 #16
And then there was the Marshall Plan BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #17
I have watched The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich on the History channel several times. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #18
I read jimmil Jul 2017 #20
There are still buildings moondust Jul 2017 #25
My mother was there.... age 7 Adrahil Jul 2017 #19
"...One strong new idea to carry new strength which would make Germany great again." VOX Jul 2017 #22
How is your goose stepping? Blue_true Jul 2017 #24
Wow. I don't recall hearing that mentioned during the election ecstatic Jul 2017 #26
Wow, a fascinating look at post war life. I wish I could show this to my Dad. Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #27

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
10. "five pounds of black market butter"
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jul 2017

I've heard after Saigon fell it wasn't gold that got you places it was toilet paper!! Foodstuffs, cigarettes. Common commodities that were impossible to get were king..
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kcr

(15,315 posts)
12. ...
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jul 2017
http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/berlin-end-war-1945/

The biggest problem that the Berliners had to face was the threat of starvation. German war-time ration cards were no longer valid. Any remaining rations were either used to feed Russian troops or stolen by hungry Germans. On May 15, the Russians introduced a new five-tier ration-card system: The highest tier was reserved for intellectuals and artists; rubble women and Schwerarbeiter (manual workers) received the second-tier card, which was more valuable to them than the 12 Reichsmark they received for cleaning up a thousand bricks; the lowest card, nicknamed the Friedhofskarte (cemetery ticket) was issued to housewives and the elderly. During this period, the average Berliner was around 6 to 9 kg (13 to 20 lb) underweight.

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
5. Cool
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

Anyone have any idea of what those toppled statues on the stairs were of? I couldn't listen to the narration if there was any.


Peace

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
13. Here it is.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jul 2017

The video comes from Konstantin von zur Muehlen, the founder of Chronos Media, which has access to an archive of historic film footage.

link ....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/colour-video-reveals-berlin-life-after-the-fall-of-hitlers-germany-10226717.html



I found the video on YouTube. There are similar ones from this media company on there as well.

 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
8. Lessons
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:39 PM
Jul 2017

Germany was a fairly progressive democracy before they let their right wing spin out of control.. The rest of the western democracies (and the Soviets) had to band together to set things right.. Does anybody see where I'm going here?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. I am getting the impression that military leaders
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

in the US are having doubts about Trump. If that gets worse, look for a wild scramble among republicans to replace him.

 

mikeyDE

(31 posts)
14. Could easily have been titled "German Exceptionalism"
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jul 2017

This is what eventually happens to societies that claim exceptionalism. Fascinating and frightening.

Another German aftermath film can be seen in the film Mondo Cane, ca. 1963. A vignette shows a street scene in Hamburg more than a decade after the end of the war. People still without good paying works, drunks, men and women collapsed on the street. The picture of hopelessness.

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
15. Never Again!
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jul 2017

As I said I a previous post this is the legacy of death and destruction that Hitler left the world. 45 is in there somewhere. With his back-stabbing of the LGBTQ community to this Healthcare mess he wants to ram down our throats. More and more people should be able to see what kind of a lying, scam artist he is.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
18. I have watched The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich on the History channel several times.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:26 PM
Jul 2017

It is fascinating and I recommend it. The women and children had to do most of the labor themselves since the men had been killed. They weren't finished rebuilding for almost 20 years. Most of the Nazis who were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg and sentenced to jail "for life" were all released in less than 20 years due to political reasons. This was mostly due to the fear of the spread of communism and maintaining allies for the new Cold War.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
25. There are still buildings
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 11:47 PM
Jul 2017

with the pockmarks of bullet holes in them. I lived in Berlin in the mid 70s and there were old apartment buildings in my neighborhood that had bullet holes in them.

Much of the rubble that was left of Berlin after the war was piled up out in the forest to create a good-sized hill that was called Teufelsberg (Devil's Mountain). The U.S. and Britain later built a listening post on top of it that lasted through the Cold War but has subsequently been abandoned and left to decay and collapse.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. "...One strong new idea to carry new strength which would make Germany great again."
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

"Nationalism and Socialism had to be redefined and they had to be blended into one strong new idea to carry new strength which would make Germany great again." -- A. Hitler, February, 1940

Sound familiar?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. How is your goose stepping?
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:57 PM
Jul 2017

Doing a good job on the parade grounds may come in handy with Trump in office. At least Hitler fought in WWI and didn't catch a bad case of bone spurs.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
26. Wow. I don't recall hearing that mentioned during the election
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jul 2017

He stole Hitler's phrase and nobody called him out on it. Smfh

Rhiannon12866

(205,217 posts)
27. Wow, a fascinating look at post war life. I wish I could show this to my Dad.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:38 AM
Jul 2017

He visited Germany as a young student in the early '50s and talked about the ruined buildings he saw - that were still actively being used. When he began traveling years later, Germany was the first country he wanted to visit to see how things had changed...

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