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So Ms-13 which started in the 80's is Obama's fault? (Original Post) MattP Jul 2017 OP
Hell yeah he was from Nigeria and Ghana and California try to keep up elehhhhna Jul 2017 #1
Trumpy thinks everything is Obama's fault FM123 Jul 2017 #2
Gad, the stupid. LisaM Jul 2017 #3
Wait - what? JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #4
According to this CNN report... atreides1 Jul 2017 #5
Hmmmm! Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #6
Every word out of his mouth is total bullshit. trof Jul 2017 #7
Good article on them here. And deportations will make the problem worse. octoberlib Jul 2017 #8
And Long Island begs to differ about being full of BLOODSTAINED KILLING FIELDS! octoberlib Jul 2017 #9

FM123

(10,053 posts)
2. Trumpy thinks everything is Obama's fault
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

Or Hillary's fault
Or Scooby Doo's fault
It's an endless list.....

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
3. Gad, the stupid.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:52 PM
Jul 2017

I had to correct someone on a friend's FB thread today who was complaining that the Clintons' (plural) proposed healthcare plan had threatened to keep her son out of a Phoenix children's hospital, also in the late 80's.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
4. Wait - what?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jul 2017

What did 45/140 say now? You have to tell me in 140 characters or less!

Kidding aside - at work and out of the loop.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Hmmmm!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:14 PM
Jul 2017

Seems to me,this whole Gang evolved from the GOP's Empire building in the 80's during the Saint Ronnie era. Gee,didn't Ollie and his Mafia use this as conduit for blowing the crap out of El Salvador. Something about the Mercenaries working for the CIA going door to door executing the Doctors,Lawyers and School Teachers.

And we wonder how ISIS was started and under what conditions. Friggen Ignorant Politicians.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. Good article on them here. And deportations will make the problem worse.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jul 2017

Though Trump placed the blame for MS-13's presence in the US on his predecessor, criminal and Latin American experts say that the problem began much earlier. And most agree that aggressive deportation policies played a key role into turning the gang into an international criminal threat.

Formed as a Los Angeles street gang in the 1980s, MS-13, or Marasalvatrucha, was initially comprised mainly of immigrants from El Salvador, many of who were escaping a civil war in their home country.

Amid a spike in violent crime and gang activity in the mid-1990s, Congress passed legislation aimed at using targeted deportations as a tool to crack down on street gangs like MS-13. Under that policy, suspected gang members sentenced to a year or more in prison would be eligible for deportation. Minor crimes like petty theft and drunk driving were also added to a list of offenses that could make immigrants — including those living in the US legally — eligible for deportation.

As a result, the deportations effectively exported MS-13 to Central American countries, many of which were still reeling from the impacts of years of civil war and were unprepared for the influx of deportations. Street gangs like MS-13 flourished in these countries, as the gangs' expanded their reach and exported the gang lifestyle learned in the streets of Los Angeles streets to Central America and Mexico.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/salvadorhernandez/what-is-ms-13-and-why-is-trump-suddenly-obsessed-with-this?utm_term=.abwWzawd#.soK2QpRL


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