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So, who is going to be the Democratic presidential candidate in 2020? (Original Post) TheCowsCameHome Jul 2017 OP
Too early... Blanks Jul 2017 #1
Let me state this unequivocally: guillaumeb Jul 2017 #2
Does "guillaumeb" mean... GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #34
Did he say this prior to me saying it? eom guillaumeb Jul 2017 #41
His original statement was a tad more verbose: unblock Jul 2017 #60
I liked the part about being "unanimously elected". guillaumeb Jul 2017 #67
hey, not being born here didn't stop ted cruz or john mccain from running! unblock Jul 2017 #68
I'll do it Bradical79 Jul 2017 #3
Me too! My slogan, "I am tired of this crap!" Dustlawyer Jul 2017 #32
To me the only issue is electability Cicada Jul 2017 #55
Sounds like a great platform! You got my vote Va Lefty Jul 2017 #57
Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, a few others. I'd actually love to vote for Jerry Brown myself. byronius Jul 2017 #4
Governor Moonbeam no longer IndieRick Jul 2017 #15
"High speed rail to nowhere". Sacramento or Bakersfield oasis Jul 2017 #17
Ever been to Bakersfield? IndieRick Aug 2017 #73
"Oh Lord, Stuck in Lodi Again" oasis Aug 2017 #74
I actually think high speed rail is a great idea and in time it will become a train to Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #24
opinions vary IndieRick Jul 2017 #49
Has anyone argued otherwise? LanternWaste Aug 2017 #81
Number two IndieRick Aug 2017 #84
High speed rail to nowhere? Are you kidding. Do you drive the freeway? Do you breathe the air? onecaliberal Aug 2017 #77
Knee jerk reactions limit discussion IndieRick Aug 2017 #80
Knee jerk reactions like "rail to nowhere" lacking any objective evidence to support it? LanternWaste Aug 2017 #82
Gee, a troll IndieRick Aug 2017 #83
Warren already said, she doesn't want to. Presidential campaigns toxic & too much stress. DetlefK Jul 2017 #28
Kirsten Gillibrand! lastlib Jul 2017 #45
Gillibrand needs to be on TV Cicada Jul 2017 #59
Less time for Reps to ramp up their character assassinations. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #5
Assuming we still have elections. Golden Raisin Jul 2017 #6
Hell, we don't know who the president's gonna be in 2018 elehhhhna Jul 2017 #7
I'd like Chris Murphy to consider it as well. The only negative was the whole mortgage issue he had OnDoutside Jul 2017 #8
Kirsten Gillibrand. democratisphere Jul 2017 #9
Joe Kennedy III GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #10
Hmmm. I shall investigate -- I'd sort of forgotten him. byronius Jul 2017 #20
+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #76
Beats me book_worm Jul 2017 #11
Adam Schiff..nt monmouth4 Jul 2017 #12
He's definitely on the list. American. Straight shooter. byronius Jul 2017 #21
We might all be dead by then Egnever Jul 2017 #13
I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you onenote Jul 2017 #14
We better pick one now! RIGHT NOW! This very second! Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #16
We have primaries and an early pick just gives the GOP time to demonize them. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #23
That was sarcasm. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #25
We are in absolute agreement...we need a good primary where all can feel Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #36
Al Franken as VP would be a very good choice. DetlefK Jul 2017 #30
"I'm dressed as a baggage handler" Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #33
I don't want to lose his voice in the Senate n/t moonscape Jul 2017 #62
Most baffling cycle I can think of Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #18
Our bench is not weak. We have young up and comers... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #37
Weak in terms of logical ascension to nominee Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #46
No obvious choices, like ... dawg Jul 2017 #70
Not weak at all. BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #39
Easy Tavarious Jackson Jul 2017 #19
I don't know and don't care at this moment. You know Congress is probably more important. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #22
Warren vs Harris in the primary, I am calling Warren now as the nominee Not Ruth Jul 2017 #26
Time is not slipping by at a very hot pace. DFW Jul 2017 #27
Keep traffic lights red, yellow and green, YAY! elleng Jul 2017 #64
Where is your hope? Where is your optimism? GaryCnf Jul 2017 #29
Time is not slipping JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #31
Thanks for submitting some common sense here, and the ultimate Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #51
Just heard about this guy...Seth Moulton N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2017 #35
Sounds like a good blueprint to reclaim some white voters Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #47
I'll get flamed...But I still want Hillary. Rustyeye77 Jul 2017 #38
She is not going to run. She is over it, and we ought to let her have her way now. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #54
See post 53. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2017 #71
My gut feeling it will be nobody on the radar today and perhaps not beachbum bob Jul 2017 #40
Cory Booker Expecting Rain Jul 2017 #42
Not gonna happen. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #56
"Glorious Giant Handed Leader" Trump will be the nominee for both parties by 2020. briv1016 Jul 2017 #43
Maxine Waters is the next President. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #44
Ms Waters has been in the House for a long time, but HeartachesNhangovers Jul 2017 #50
Bernie Sanders. nt Flying Squirrel Jul 2017 #48
Your idea of a joke? Nobody wants ANY OLD MAN (AGAIN). WinkyDink Jul 2017 #53
There was a time when ageism was roundly condemned on DU whenever it reared its ugly head. Flying Squirrel Jul 2017 #66
I'm down with Joe III. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #52
To early, we have elections this year in Virginia and New Jersey. nycbos Jul 2017 #58
Tom Perez will help with Hispanic turnout. Cicada Jul 2017 #61
I don't know. old guy Jul 2017 #63
It'll be hard to find anyone to pass the purity tests. EllieBC Jul 2017 #65
There's still plenty of time mvd Jul 2017 #69
Let's see who walks the walk when the next environmental disaster looms - like now floppyboo Aug 2017 #72
Warren announced Friday that she would not run in 2020, Gillibrand did the same a while ago Not Ruth Aug 2017 #75
Tim Ryan stevil Aug 2017 #78
Kamala Harris. Running mate, PA Gov. Tom Wolf Freddie Aug 2017 #79

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. Too early...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:44 PM
Jul 2017

Anyone that distinguishes themselves this early, we will be tired of by then.

We need to get through 2018. I just hope there are only a handful of candidates in the primaries.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Let me state this unequivocally:
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jul 2017

If nominated, I will not run.

If elected, I will not serve.

Not being born here, I can state with confidence that the above two statements are correct.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
60. His original statement was a tad more verbose:
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jul 2017

"I hereby state, and mean all that I say, that I never have been and never will be a candidate for President; that if nominated by either party, I should peremptorily decline; and even if unanimously elected I should decline to serve."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shermanesque_statement

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
67. I liked the part about being "unanimously elected".
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jul 2017

On my part, I do recognize that there might be some few, a very few of course, who would not recognize my qualifications.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
32. Me too! My slogan, "I am tired of this crap!"
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jul 2017

My number one plank on the platform would be campaign finance reform. No more campaign donations, Super PACs, Dark Money, or Revolving Doors! Publicly Funded Elections Baby!

The rest in no particular order:
Number Two: Climate Change;
Number Three: Bust up the banking and media oligarchies and require the truth in news and talk radio;
Number Four: Criminal Justice reform and no more private prisons;
Number Five: Universal Health Care;
Number Six: Education;
Number Seven: Legalize all drugs (Rehab is free thanks to #5);
Number Eight: The Budget, cut military waste and spending, beef up safety net;
Number Nine: Tax Reform, tax the shite out of the 1% since they have received all gains for 40 years;
Number Ten: Term limits on elected officials - 2 terms for Senators and 5 for House members.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
4. Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, a few others. I'd actually love to vote for Jerry Brown myself.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jul 2017

The cranky old hypercompetent dude himself. I respect his service.

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
15. Governor Moonbeam no longer
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jul 2017

As a resident of the state of California I cannot support Brown for President. While he will probably not place his hat in the ring he has demonstrated a penchant for supporting legislation I am strongly against; the high speed rail to nowhere and the destruction of one of our greatest natural resources, the SF Bay Delta by building those tunnels .Farmers all the way to Sacramento will be decimated by the increasing salinity of our major rivers and the death knell for salmon will be rung.

Further ,spending tens of billions for a train ride from Sacramento to Bakersfield is hugely wasteful when so many important items go begging for funding.

I strongly support Harris or Warren, and hope to see some emerging democrats stepping up between now and that election. I must add that whether Democrat or Green, even Indie like myself, we cannot afford to sit back and wait for 2020, the coming midterms are vitally important to help Trump make his presidency impotent.

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
73. Ever been to Bakersfield?
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:52 AM
Aug 2017

Seriously, consider how many riders or commuters there are who need to go from Sac to either Fresno or Bakersfield even on an infrequent basis. I could make an argument for high speed rail between Sac. SF, La and San Diego, but with the price tag so astronomical, with the needs of California so great, that money can be far better spent.

No insult to either Sacramento ( where I currently type this article, my fiance being a resident ) or Bakersfield, honest.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
74. "Oh Lord, Stuck in Lodi Again"
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:44 AM
Aug 2017

That tune was instantly brought to mind when I read your initial post.

My first visit to Bakersfield was in the early 50's. Our relatives there had an outhouse Returned to Bakersfield 20 years later w/spouse and stayed at a Holiday Inn, although relatives had indoor plumbing by then

Haven't been back since.

I don't believe you meant any harm with the "train to nowhere" comment, but I think I know where you are coming from about the cost to benefit.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
24. I actually think high speed rail is a great idea and in time it will become a train to
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:26 AM
Jul 2017

somewhere because of the rail. And if you are green...you want to get cars off the road. I would support Brown in a heartbeat, he has done a great job in California.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
81. Has anyone argued otherwise?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:35 AM
Aug 2017

" you are certainly entitled to yours..."

Has anyone argued otherwise?

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
84. Number two
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:09 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:39 AM - Edit history (1)

This is the second time you have chosen to respond with nothing. It seems obvious you are some lonely, bored and sophomoric loser.
Your sobriquet,LanternWaste, implies ashes. It is , therefore ,rather appropriate that you have, thus far, made an ash of yourself.

Does this place have a blocking option?

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
77. High speed rail to nowhere? Are you kidding. Do you drive the freeway? Do you breathe the air?
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:31 PM
Aug 2017

That is just wow... imo that is a republican talking point.

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
80. Knee jerk reactions limit discussion
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:36 AM
Aug 2017

There are a myriad of problems facing , not only California, not only the US , but the world. When seeking solutions one must be conscious, not only of the immediacy of these multiple dangers but of the ability to resolve them.

The cost of high speed rail, when considering how much assistance our fellow citizens require, how many live without health care, without hope without a future seems, frankly a good idea whose time has not yet come.
The project's cost and scope have long been a source of controversy. The Authority has estimated the project's year-of-expenditure cost at $68.4 billion (2012 estimate).

For that kind of money, considering that there may very well be not only cost overruns and enormous ones at that, but also that trains from Sacramento to Bakersfield will very likely run empty, adding, not subtracting, to our pollution debt. Surely schools , infrastructure, health care and all the other problems needing, and desperately so, solution should not take a back seat to what is, in my opinion, a glamorous fraud, at least for the present.

One last word, regarding your tone. I offer my opinion and you offer a knee jerk accusatory and , in my opinion, quite sophomoric accusation. If you cannot do better in this, or any discussion, then you just embarrass yourself and add nothing helpful to the discussion, certainly not to any solutions. My sobriquet might be a clue as to my political position, at least to those who consider first and post second.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
82. Knee jerk reactions like "rail to nowhere" lacking any objective evidence to support it?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:36 AM
Aug 2017

Knee jerk reactions like "rail to nowhere" lacking any objective evidence to support it? The important thing is you hold others to standards you yourself ignore...

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
83. Gee, a troll
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:07 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:40 AM - Edit history (1)

A rail line from Sacramento to Bakersfield is exactly as I described it. Further the phrase is not my own but is one always associated with reportage of the proposal.

This is a boondoggle designed only to enrich the few at the expense of the many, yet again. No mass transit agency depending on profit would build a line which is very likely to run empty in both directions. No , instead the enormity of the cost of cnstruction is the attraction here, not the mythic necessity of going 120 mph to Bakersfield.

The real needs for a high speed rail line , one running between Sacramento and San Diego is impossible due to the enormous cost of acquiring the necessary rights of way.

You post a sophomoric attack devoid of any of the facts you criticize my own effort for lacking. How droll. I trust you are not typical of posters on this forum.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
59. Gillibrand needs to be on TV
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jul 2017

She needs to show how smart and well-informed she is. I think the extreme beauty of her face and smile make people expect her to be a bit of a light weight. With looks like that she probable didn't have to be all that talented. But Hillary and Schumer wanted her to replace Hillary as Senator because they had worked with her and knew that she is deep.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
8. I'd like Chris Murphy to consider it as well. The only negative was the whole mortgage issue he had
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jul 2017

but I think he could legitimately spin that as a positive, something that many could relate to.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
14. I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:57 PM
Jul 2017

But for the right price I'll tell you who is going to win the Super Bowl in 2019.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. We better pick one now! RIGHT NOW! This very second!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:22 AM
Jul 2017

Seriously, right now my top picks are Newsom, Harris, Inslee, Warren

then Buttigeig, Franken, Booker, Gillibrand, etc.



Really, I think more than ever we need someone from the West Coast. (see Newsom, Harris, Inslee)


West Coast Democrats tend to have a better handle on the internet, technology, 1st and 4th amendment issues, the drug war, etc.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
36. We are in absolute agreement...we need a good primary where all can feel
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jul 2017

great (or at least OK) with the ultimate choice. Sorry I missed the sarcasm. I have seen some post what you did seriously.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
30. Al Franken as VP would be a very good choice.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:49 AM
Jul 2017

He would bring a Biden-like aura of likability to the ticket. Funny and disarming, if he wants to. Intelligent and razor-sharp, if he wants to.



Plus he had a minor role in "Trading Places".

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. "I'm dressed as a baggage handler"
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:54 AM
Jul 2017





I love Al, but I don't think he wants it. That could always change, of course.

His last book is great, too. I'm about 2/3 of the way through it.



 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
18. Most baffling cycle I can think of
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:14 AM
Jul 2017

Nobody stands out as logical and likely. Our bench is historically weak right now, especially high profile in the ideal age range.

Put it this way: If anybody had an idea there would be multiple threads on this topic every day with dozens and dozens of heated replies. Instead, it's seldom discussed and a blur.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
37. Our bench is not weak. We have young up and comers...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:31 AM
Jul 2017

Joseph Kennedy III...remarkable young man, Corey Booker, Amy Klobuchar,Kirsten, Michelle Obama,John Hickenlooper, Chris Murphy, Andrew Cuomo,Kamala Harris, Patrick Deval,John Dalaney (MD already announced),Steve Bullock, Sherrod Brown,Jerry Brown, Seth Moulton,Al Franken, Jay Inslee, Terry McAuliffe, Gavin Newsom,Tammy Duckworth, Martin O'malley,Mitch Landrieu,Julian Castro,Bill DeBlasio,Patrick Maloney,Howard Dean ( I was a Deaniac!),Eric Garcetti, Adam Schiff,Jay Inslee, Xavier Becerra...there are others as well.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
46. Weak in terms of logical ascension to nominee
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:38 PM
Jul 2017

Those are impressive people but none of them are ideally placed by historical standards. Some are too old or young. Others lack charisma. Some are in the House. Many are women and it's foolish to ignore that only one female has ever been nominated. It remains to be seen if we are reluctant to go that route so soon after Hillary's defeat.

I'm admittedly biased toward governors. I wish we 5 or 6 high profile high approval governors lined up, with the winner emerging as nominee.

When I say lack of depth I'm mostly annoyed and concerned that our gubernatorial numbers have slipped so badly recently.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
70. No obvious choices, like ...
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jul 2017

a first-term Senator, or the governor of a backwards Southern state.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
22. I don't know and don't care at this moment. You know Congress is probably more important.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:23 AM
Jul 2017

The president is but one man. What could Pres. Obama accomplish after losing the House? A better question is what seats do we have to shift in 18 and 20 to take back Congress.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
27. Time is not slipping by at a very hot pace.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:36 AM
Jul 2017

If we don't have some serious successes in the midterms next year, the next President, if a Democrat (and at this point, I think Bugs Bunny could win), will have a very chilly reception the day after the Inaugural Ball. McTurtle will still be around, and hold his usual meeting to block every initiative the new president proposes. Next time, it will be enough for a Democratic president to propose keeping traffic lights red, yellow and green. The Republicans will say the proposal discriminates against blue and demand a "Jimi Hendrix" amendment.*

That having been said, I think it is the height of folly to do serious speculation as to who will be our nominee in 2020. We do NOT have a weak bench. We have an unpublicized bench that is extremely strong. There is a big difference. In contrast, the Republicans have a very well publicized weak bench. But who took Obama seriously in 2005? For that matter, who takes Trump seriously even now (except as a threat to our survival as a species)?



*Taken from the lyrics to "The Wind Cries Mary"

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
29. Where is your hope? Where is your optimism?
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jul 2017

Our nominee will be the incumbent president in/by 2020 . . . Nancy Pelosi.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
31. Time is not slipping
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:49 AM
Jul 2017

We have to get NJ and VA over the finish line in 2017 and take every single seat in the House where Clinton and a Republican won. My District is one.

2018 - each Democratic candidate needs to run for their district's very distinct concerns. Our candidate needs room to appeal to Finance, Pharma and Telecom because that is where the small donations that will add up to Big money comes from. The Penneast Pipeline, affiliating with state reps and state senators who want to create a wine/beer license, and an anti Washington D.C. message, and taxes relating to education will work in my district.

Here's how they voted in May on the so called Healthcare Bill:

14 Republican "yes" votes from Clinton-won districts:
John Culberson (TX-7)
Carlos Curbelo (FL-26)
Jeff Denham (CA-10)
Darrell Issa (CA-49)
Steve Knight (CA-25)
Martha McSally (AZ-2)
Erik Paulsen (MN-7)
Dana Rohrabacher (CA-48)
Peter Roskam (IL-6)
Ed Royce (CA-39)
Pete Sessions (TX-32)
David Valdadao (CA-21)
Mimi Walters (CA-45)
Kevin Yoder (KS-3)
9 Republican "no" votes from Clinton-won districts:
Mike Coffman (CO-6)
Barbara Comstock (VA-10)
Ryan Costello (PA-6)
Will Hurd (TX-23)
John Katko (NY-24)
Leonard Lance (NJ-7)
Pat Meehan (PA-7)
Dave Reichert (WA-8)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL-27)


Ask instead - who is going to run in these districts.

We have three cream of the crop candidates in the NJ 7th.

If you have a few dollars - Peter Jacob could use it. This young man is a good one. Smart, compassionate, kind, and extremely intelligent. He came from nowhere last year with very little money or name recognition and received more votes than anyone else who has run against Lance.

Pssst - he will vote to impeach.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
51. Thanks for submitting some common sense here, and the ultimate
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jul 2017

answer is show up in November, vote for any democrat on the ballot, period.

But between now and then, yes, many who need our support.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,715 posts)
35. Just heard about this guy...Seth Moulton
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jul 2017

I have no opinion on him but it is a new name.

Article at Politico.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/28/seth-moulton-congressman-run-president-2020-profile-215428


Moulton has three degrees from Harvard, and he did four difficult, decorated tours as a Marine in Iraq. But he’s still a neophyte in the House of Representatives, and in politics. This is the first office of any kind he’s ever held. In the wake, though, of last fall’s terrain-altering election, Ferson detected an opening. “This,” he told me, “is a moment in time where he is the exact right person to run for president.”

This conversation—reported here for the first time—is precisely the type of talk that’s currently causing disgusted eye-rolling among significantly more tenured Democrats in Massachusetts and Washington. They dismiss Moulton, albeit never for attribution, as gratingly ambitious, a grandstanding backbencher who has advocated for the ouster of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to make way for new, younger standard-bearers—like himself. They see Moulton’s message of country over party as not so much admirable as annoying. “It’s the supercilious, sanctimonious Oh, golly gee,” one longtime political observer of his district said of Moulton’s assertions of selflessness. Some of the opinions on Capitol Hill are even more scathing. “I don’t think I’ve seen a more opportunistic, duplicitous person serving in the House,” said a senior Democratic aide, blasting Moulton as somebody who talks bigger than he plays and who pillories Pelosi while almost always voting the same way. “He doesn’t do anything around here,” the aide said. Other members who are more supportive are reluctant to say so publicly—cautious about being seen as “giving him a bear hug,” as one Hill staffer put it, “while he’s knifing the leader.”

Every politician, of course, has enemies. But it’s Moulton’s allies who make him atypical—military leaders like David Petraeus and Stanley McChrystal, experienced political minds like David Gergen. These people look at Moulton and see the face of the future of the Democratic Party, a social progressive who’s fiscally more moderate. They see somebody who could chip away at the intractable ideological conflict that is crippling this country and appeal to the sorts of voters who have turned away from the party. And these people don’t say this because of Moulton’s legislative accomplishments, which to this point are limited. They don’t say it because he has compared the president to Hitler and chastised him as “a serial liar” and “a draft dodger,” which does not make him unusual as a Democrat. They don’t even say it because of his position on Pelosi, which does. What excites his supporters the most is what Moulton did before he got to Washington—the four tours in Iraq over parts of five years, the two medals of valor, the special counterinsurgency team he served on that reported directly to Petraeus. In Moulton, they see the antithesis of Trump—a recipient of five Vietnam War draft deferments, considered by many to be the least service-oriented president ever.

***Rest of article at above link. ***

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
47. Sounds like a good blueprint to reclaim some white voters
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jul 2017

That resume would have won last year. I'm certain of it. But that's only if the guy attached to it is strong and sharp enough to endure a campaign and all the Trump and Koch-caliber attacks.

I don't know much about him. Sounds like he would face obstacles among traditional party bosses in the early going. But there are enough months and debates to overcome that nowadays.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
42. Cory Booker
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jul 2017

He has the bio, the brains, and the personality to win.

The Democrats brightest star to win in 2020.

He could use a wife.

50. Ms Waters has been in the House for a long time, but
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think she could even win state-wide office in California. I don't think she's ever run outside her district.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
66. There was a time when ageism was roundly condemned on DU whenever it reared its ugly head.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jul 2017

Is an exception being made now for one specific "old man"?

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
58. To early, we have elections this year in Virginia and New Jersey.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jul 2017

Next year we have House, Senate, Governors and State House elections.

We need to focus on turnout, turnout, turnout.

Winning local and state house elections builds a pipeline of candidates. We have to focus of winning those. The party has ignored them for too long.


Winning these elections will put us in a stronger position in 2020.

Winning the 2005 VA Governor election and the 2006 midterms help set up Obama's win in 2008.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
65. It'll be hard to find anyone to pass the purity tests.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jul 2017

And hard to get people to understand that voting is important.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
69. There's still plenty of time
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:24 PM
Jul 2017

2020 is a long time away in politics. I would proudly vote for Sanders or Warren. Some emerging possibilities are Kamala Harris (would like to see her beef up her progressive credentials), Franken (after the reality show nightmare of Trump, his SNL days may actually help), Inslee. Hope new ones come into play.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
72. Let's see who walks the walk when the next environmental disaster looms - like now
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:49 PM
Aug 2017

who was there at Standing Rock? Not being rhetorical. Really, who?

Be a hero NOW

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
75. Warren announced Friday that she would not run in 2020, Gillibrand did the same a while ago
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:15 PM
Aug 2017

President Harris or President Sanders?

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
79. Kamala Harris. Running mate, PA Gov. Tom Wolf
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 02:09 PM
Aug 2017

He will most likely win re-election next year and will be half through his term-limited 2nd term in 2020. He's very popular here, an actual successful and ethical businessperson who's been a level-headed leader. I think he will be 70-ish by then (he's older than he looks) so he can be a VP in the Joe Biden "elder statesman" mold. Plus we're stuck with the EC and this would win PA.

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