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RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
1. Sane Republicans in moderate districts should take note
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jul 2017

If there are any left. They could save their seat (not that I'd want them to) working on this.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
6. I'd rather have Democrats in those seats when all is said and done.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jul 2017

I'm all for working with them until they can be defeated.

msongs

(67,381 posts)
2. oh yeah lets bail out repubs and make them good guys again. better she should announce
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jul 2017

the dems plan to fix things she wants fixed

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
7. Do really think they are going to take it seriously?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jul 2017

They'll just say "ok, agree to everything we want or else" and that will end it.

Casprings

(347 posts)
8. I am not so sure.. they might
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jul 2017

The Senate tried everything to do it GOP only. Trump clearly doesn't give two shits what he signs. He just wants to sign a bill. It could be single payer.

With all of that, Trump could tell his crowds that he "forced" the dems to give in. His base would buy it. Conservatives would be pissed.. but it could happen.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
5. McCain's vote could have been contingent on a move like this.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jul 2017

Good.

If McCain is willing to continue to fuck over the GOP, then I, a staunch leftist, am willing to make concessions in the interest of good governance.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
10. Yep. Pelosi is basically baiting them to restore the very $ to the ACA
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:56 PM
Jul 2017

that they stripped from the ACA so they could say the ACA was failing.

By putting it out there immediately, she is giving them the chance to expose their duplicity of the last seven years. At the end of the day, the amount of $ needed to stabilize the markets is relatively small. Once that $ is restored, the question will be why there was so much gnashing and wailing over the ACA when simply throwing a little $ at the program was all that was needed all along

better

(884 posts)
12. Republicans MUST NOT be allowed to appear to reach across the aisle by cooperating on these ideas
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:03 PM
Jul 2017

Especially, the Short Term Stability Fund, which would allocate $50 billion over 4 years to “address coverage and access disruption and respond to urgent health care needs within States.”

I don't know about anyone else, but that looks to me like a massive conspiracy by Republicans (and possibly some insurance providers).

Let's do the math.

In 2015, after Republicans gutted funding for the "risk corridor" payments in the ACA, intended to make insurers whole in the event that they suffered losses as the law was rolled out, Marco Rubio bragged that his legislative sabotage had "saved taxpayers $2.5 billion". Fast forward one year, and rates are rising by 11-30%, and insurers have dropped out of the market altogether in a number of (mostly red) states, contributing to further rise in premiums as competition eroded. Conveniently spiking with hundreds of articles about these issues in just October 2016, a month before the election.

Then fast forward just another 9 months, and we're debating a Republican initiative that would allocate twenty times the amount that Rubio and his Republican co-conspirators effectively stole from the insurance companies by gutting the risk corridor, specifically to “address coverage and access disruption" that they intentionally created.

I mean all one has to do is connect the dots. They surreptitiously force the government to renege on $2.5 billion in payments promised to insurance providers to stabilize the market, decrying them as "a taxpayer-funded bailout for insurance companies." Then once they get into power, they allocate nearly five times as much to bailing out insurance companies.

Smells fishy to me.

area51

(11,902 posts)
15. "Let the markets work"?
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jul 2017

What a curious turn of phrase. The reason why we're in this mess is unfettered free markets!

Why don't you take a look at this site?

Casprings

(347 posts)
16. I am a pragmatics. I don't give two shits rather it is single payer or a market based system
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jul 2017

As long as people have access to needed medical coverage. And in fact, the reason we are where we are today is the system is based on employment provided coverage, which creates all sorts of weird stuff. That is the original sin.

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