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My moment to eat crow (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Jul 2017 OP
He really slammed him. Here's my boy, back to vote Yes! What, WTF, what just happened? n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #1
I had to write one too. Did that night... Glad to be wrong. boston bean Jul 2017 #2
Nothing to eat... Phentex Jul 2017 #3
Still recovering from the shock myself! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2017 #4
No shame in making a legitimate prediction loyalsister Jul 2017 #5
I join you SHRED Jul 2017 #6
It could have gone either way. GreenEyedLefty Jul 2017 #7
I believed as you did - that McCain would vote 'aye' CousinIT Jul 2017 #8
I got it wrong. I predicted that MCain would vote "no" on the vote to proceed, accompanied with NCjack Jul 2017 #9
I like to think it was an FU to trump. HeartachesNhangovers Jul 2017 #10
You're right. It was meant for both of them. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #11
That was certainly a big part of it. sarge43 Jul 2017 #16
Was it not also... Pluvious Jul 2017 #33
I thought he would do the McCain thing, too. liberalmuse Jul 2017 #12
At least you admitted you were wrong... ADX Jul 2017 #13
So was I.. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #14
So you erred on the side of probability. When it comes to that guy, I say you did the rational thing ancianita Jul 2017 #15
He made it clear that he wouldnot vote for the bill in it's "present" form. tirebiter Jul 2017 #17
I gave up on trying to figure out what people will do a long time ago Cirque du So-What Jul 2017 #18
I thought the same thing NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #19
Mitch stuck it to McCain when he shot down McCain Feingold. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #20
Raises hand sheepishly... yankeepants Jul 2017 #21
He got McConnell and Trump in one vote. TNNurse Jul 2017 #22
It's a good thing to be pleasantly surprised. Marcuse Jul 2017 #23
What are the chances of a Republican doing the right thing? 1 in a million? Vinca Jul 2017 #24
Me too greeny2323 Jul 2017 #25
If you expect the worst. Nac Mac Feegle Jul 2017 #26
It seems to me (as a casual observer) that McCain plays the role of "designated maverick" often. krispos42 Jul 2017 #27
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself Egnever Jul 2017 #28
... orangecrush Jul 2017 #29
I am sure I assumed the worst as well Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #30
Thankfully is right! Kath2 Jul 2017 #31
you're not the only one. barbtries Jul 2017 #32
It's OK. We still love you. raccoon Jul 2017 #34
Pass me a slice. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #35
don't beat yourself up. he is still self-serving scum. niyad Jul 2017 #36
I thought you were right when I went to bed that night jimlup Jul 2017 #37
Let's see what he does if it comes up for a vote again--which it can. panader0 Jul 2017 #38
Me too, but I don't feel bad ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #39

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
3. Nothing to eat...
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jul 2017

A handful of people said he might step up and do the right thing. I didn't believe it because he hasn't done that in the past.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. No shame in making a legitimate prediction
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jul 2017

There was every reason to believe the worst would happen. I held out hope and was happy to see it happen. I just made a lucky guess and would not feel obligated to give in to shaming if I was wrong. I don't think eating crow is necessary.

CousinIT

(9,209 posts)
8. I believed as you did - that McCain would vote 'aye'
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jul 2017

Probably many of us assumed that's what he'd do. You weren't alone. Guess we can share the crow casserole!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
9. I got it wrong. I predicted that MCain would vote "no" on the vote to proceed, accompanied with
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

some unkind words for McConnell and Trump. Instead, he took them down the garden path and ruined their plan to screw the poor this fiscal year by voting "no" on the bill. I also barely missed my other prediction -- that MConnell would have a stroke on the senate floor and be taken to Georgetown Hosp.

I think that this vote reduced McConnell's ability to continue. Of all the shit he heaped on Pres. Obama, he got back in measure a humiliating defeat by a black president who is no longer in office. McConnell has to go back to his buddies in Kentucky. There will be no sipping Wild Turkey bourbon and pats on the back for finally erasing Pres. Obama's legacy. He may decided to retire, to spend more time with his loving wife, and help her family manage all the advantages he set up for their companies.

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
16. That was certainly a big part of it.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jul 2017

I'd like think he also did it for all POWs because that poltroon insulted every one of them.

Pluvious

(4,303 posts)
33. Was it not also...
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

... To give cover to the other GOPers that had to vote yes, so they'd not get in trouble with their base ?

Maybe the full story will come out some day.

liberalmuse

(18,671 posts)
12. I thought he would do the McCain thing, too.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jul 2017

Not your fault. For once he surprised me and voted the way he talked instead of talking one way and then once again ending up voting with the party line. I guess at this point he really doesn't have much to lose.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
13. At least you admitted you were wrong...
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jul 2017

...unlike the dozens of other DUers who talked shit and wished a horrible, lingering death on the man.



mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
14. So was I..
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jul 2017

He hasn't atoned for everything, think Sarah Palin, but he sure redeemed himself on healthcare, even while making wildly untrue statements about how the ACA was passed. This is so different and he knows it. Any comparison is fake.

I was sure he'd be a yes vote, but he was true to his speech. Score one for McCain, and I mean ONE!

tirebiter

(2,532 posts)
17. He made it clear that he wouldnot vote for the bill in it's "present" form.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jul 2017

If there had been some actual debate it may have gone otherwise. He was saying, "Hold on, let's at least appear to be reasonable, now."

Cirque du So-What

(25,899 posts)
18. I gave up on trying to figure out what people will do a long time ago
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

and that maxim goes double for politicians. My prognostication is limited to the outcome of decisions that have already been made.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. I thought the same thing
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:39 PM
Jul 2017

McCain regularly says one thing and does another. Good for him for doing the right thing this time.

TNNurse

(6,924 posts)
22. He got McConnell and Trump in one vote.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jul 2017

It does not erase his other awful votes and choices (Sarah Palin), but it was great to watch McConnell walk off in defeat.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
24. What are the chances of a Republican doing the right thing? 1 in a million?
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jul 2017

I think most of us figured he would vote like one of the sheep.

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
25. Me too
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jul 2017

I was saying it repeatedly right up until not long before the vote, when we started getting signals that something was up.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
27. It seems to me (as a casual observer) that McCain plays the role of "designated maverick" often.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:32 PM
Jul 2017

As in, the GOP needs something to fail because they know, factually, it's better if it dies. But politically/ideologically, they can't vote against it. So they have the rank-and-file vote one way, and a designated spoiler or two (such as McCain) vote with the Democrats so it dies.



I'm glad it went down in flames as well.. but like a burning mattress, these things can come back to life without warning.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
28. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

it is very likely he gave cover to others. He will not be up for election again.

Kath2

(3,074 posts)
31. Thankfully is right!
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:41 PM
Jul 2017

I was totally against McCain when he ran for president but he got it right this time.

Another bad week for the pResident!

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
34. It's OK. We still love you.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jul 2017

You have PROVEN that you aren't a Republican. Republicans don't apologize or admit they were wrong.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
35. Pass me a slice.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jul 2017

In my defense, I did say in my posts expecting McCain to cave that I would definitely like to be surprised by him. And I was surprised. Thankfully.

I called McCain's office on Friday to thank him for his vote, and to wish him well.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
37. I thought you were right when I went to bed that night
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jul 2017

What a refreshing morning that was!

Don't give too much credit to ol' John though. Some Female Senators from Maine and Alaska had been holding their finger in the dike for quite awhile before that!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
39. Me too, but I don't feel bad
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jul 2017

It was a surprise based on a long record of McCain saying the right thing and then doing the wrong thing. McConnell knew McCain's past well enough that he thought he could count on that.

When I found out just how completely McCain screwed him, all I could think was "Well played sir".

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