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today trump said john kelly will go down as one of the greatest chiefs of staff 'ever' (Original Post) spanone Jul 2017 OP
It's weird that Kelly accepted that job NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #1
trump is unmanageable. don't have a clue why you would want to jump into that hornet's nest? spanone Jul 2017 #2
Maybe he really thinks he can fix that mess. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #6
If Kelly actually did anything to put out that dumpster fire and change the course that the smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #7
Bingo. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #10
I hope he has a calm disposition and patience. Ilsa Jul 2017 #16
I don't see how a general with an ounce of self awareness loyalsister Jul 2017 #20
He's Had The Job 10 Minutes ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #3
trump mouth hyperbole spanone Jul 2017 #5
I just had the same thought. Trump's imprimatur spells certain doom. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #4
He'll probably be fired before Christmas MrScorpio Jul 2017 #8
No. He'll resign on his own by Thanksgiving jmowreader Jul 2017 #11
I don't think he'll last that long. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #14
Everything always has to be "the greatest" with this self aggrandizing blabbermouth. Kleveland Jul 2017 #9
Trump is the perfect reverse barometer Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #12
exactly....kelly looked 'unsettled' next to trump this am...... spanone Jul 2017 #17
Who? JoeStuckInOH Jul 2017 #13
Find an average person in the US and over them $100,000,000... Orrex Jul 2017 #15
I'll give him 3 months... n/t GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #18
Edit your OP down to 8 words! Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #19
'today trump said john kelly will go down' spanone Jul 2017 #21
Remember when a lot of Hitlers Generals hatched a plan to take him down katmondoo Jul 2017 #22

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
1. It's weird that Kelly accepted that job
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

especially given that he turned it down several times; he clearly didn't want it. What changed?

I have a feeling this will end in tears.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
6. Maybe he really thinks he can fix that mess.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

Those big-shot generals have pretty substantial egos themselves, and Kelly is used to managing big organizations and having his orders followed. He probably figures he can show up at the West Wing and start creating org charts and rearranging staff duties and telling Scaramucci to behave himself. He'll probably insist on being the gatekeeper for access to Trump, which is the way most chiefs of staff operate. The problem is that Trump doesn't operate that way; he'll insist that Scaramucci and Jared and Ivanka have direct access to him at all times; he won't give Kelly advance notice of much of anything; he'll keep tweeting; he'll directly contradict things Kelly says publicly - just like he did to Priebus. Trump likes chaos and he likes playing his staff against each other. Unless Trump empowers Kelly to clean up that mess - and that won't happen - he'll fail and Trump will stab him in the back on his way out.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. If Kelly actually did anything to put out that dumpster fire and change the course that the
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jul 2017

administration is heading, Trump would toss him out on his ass in a New York minute. He won't allow anyone to upstage him or look more competent and if Kelly starts imposing some order on this train wreck his days will be numbered.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
10. Bingo.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jul 2017

Trump likes dumpster fires. He starts them. He won't let Kelly or anyone else come anywhere near his stinky conflagrations with a fire extinguisher.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
16. I hope he has a calm disposition and patience.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jul 2017

I wonder if he conceal-carries while in the WH? (I know: not likely.) Hate to see him lose his cool and start plugging the boss.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
20. I don't see how a general with an ounce of self awareness
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jul 2017

would think it's a good idea to work for a childish bully. It's kind of mystifying that anyone with interpresonal or intellectual skills would see him as salvageable as president.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
14. I don't think he'll last that long.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jul 2017

He'll clash with Scaramucci, SCROTUS' Mini-Me, almost instantly. Trump likes foul-mouthed thugs even more than he likes generals, so the minute Kelly starts trying to rein in Mini-Me, he'll be on his way out.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
9. Everything always has to be "the greatest" with this self aggrandizing blabbermouth.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jul 2017

He is really lost in some sort of alternate reality of his own creation.

Just saying something will be so, does not make it a reality for the rest of the consciousd world.

It is beyond ironic that his so called administration will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst!

Childish..... and evil.



Orrex

(63,198 posts)
15. Find an average person in the US and over them $100,000,000...
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jul 2017

if they can name five chiefs of staff from prior to the Trump administration.

I'm betting that you won't lose your $100M on the deal.


katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
22. Remember when a lot of Hitlers Generals hatched a plan to take him down
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jul 2017

It failed but who knows maybe Trumps' Generals have the same idea in mind.

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