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Jill Stein is a communist and works for Russia - Watch this..... (Original Post) sunonmars Jul 2017 OP
How convenient for her. MineralMan Jul 2017 #1
What kind of a dipshit would vote for this person? oasis Jul 2017 #2
Susan Sarandon... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #4
Sarandon has earned permanent pariah status. nt oasis Jul 2017 #10
She, among others. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #17
A couple of dipshits BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #7
Good move. Time's wasted dealing with idiots. nt oasis Jul 2017 #18
Since she is a communist why hasn't she noticed that Russia no longer is a communist country? n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #3
Ermm.. Russia isn't communist any more. ananda Jul 2017 #5
That was my first thought too. Kentonio Jul 2017 #15
I agree, it was State Capitalism before the fall of the Soviet Union davekriss Jul 2017 #19
Thanks for a fact, about which many don't seem to care, elleng Jul 2017 #27
China isn't either. workinclasszero Jul 2017 #30
Has she figured out yet that Russia is no longer communist The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #6
She's right about the paper ballots. As for the rest, she should stop tilting at windmills. brush Jul 2017 #8
She has ruined the Green Party SHRED Jul 2017 #9
Was there any poster here silly enough to follow her? I doubt it. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #11
lulz obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #24
Senator McCarthy, is that you? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2017 #12
And to think Stein had closet supporters here who openly supported her elsewhere. LonePirate Jul 2017 #13
Nothing to do with communism. Rather... Adrahil Jul 2017 #14
Yes, the far-left seems to hate anything "west" Ezior Jul 2017 #21
She is not "far left" obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #25
russia is not communist but she is paid by putin JI7 Jul 2017 #16
I always wondered where she got her money to run those expensive ads on tv kimbutgar Jul 2017 #20
by "communist" I think you meant to say "idiot" grantcart Jul 2017 #22
She works for Putin, but is absolutely not a Communist obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #23
No. She's a right leaning libertarian that avoids red meat. tenderfoot Jul 2017 #26
One could certainly argue that given how the nuclear club is treated differently DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #28
She's a crank Renew Deal Jul 2017 #29
She's another of putins puppets onecaliberal Jul 2017 #31
Ehnn. I don't agree with everything she said there, but she is right in a few ways. xor Jul 2017 #32

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
1. How convenient for her.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jul 2017

She adapts to whatever environment she's in, I guess. A chameleon, of sorts, it seems.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
7. A couple of dipshits
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jul 2017

I know did ... and continue to justify doing so.

So they are no longer in my life.

ananda

(28,836 posts)
5. Ermm.. Russia isn't communist any more.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jul 2017

Well, it never really was truly communist, but it
called itself that and there was a socialist system
of sorts in place, although it was controlled
by totalitarian fascism.

Now, it's just out and out totalitarian mafia controlled.

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
19. I agree, it was State Capitalism before the fall of the Soviet Union
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jul 2017

The State owned the means of production. Not the people, not the entrepreneur. Just the State. Which morphed into the current kleptocracy we see today. With the fall of the Soviet Union, the State sold off its assets at pennies on the dollar to its favorite few, birthing the Oligarchs who now rule like feudal lords over the people of Russia.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. China isn't either.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jul 2017

They are both fascist which is what Putin is trying to accomplish here and Stein loves her some Putin.

So that makes her a fascist in my book. Same as Trump and his fascist party. She just hides the fact for the gullible.

brush

(53,743 posts)
8. She's right about the paper ballots. As for the rest, she should stop tilting at windmills.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jul 2017

Her and the Greens Quixotic presence every four years on the ballot just enables repug wins.

Wonder if her and Nader had a formal baton passing ceremony?

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
13. And to think Stein had closet supporters here who openly supported her elsewhere.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jul 2017

I wonder if they have changed their opinion of her. I doubt it.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. Nothing to do with communism. Rather...
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jul 2017

She is a remnant of a far-left that has trained itself to hate the West, and still harbors sympathies with Russia, despite their turn to autocratic kleptocracy. Russia is now what the far left always asserted the US has been, but old habits die hard.

Ezior

(505 posts)
21. Yes, the far-left seems to hate anything "west"
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jul 2017

No matter which crimes Kim Jong Un, Putin or Maduro are accused of - count on the far-left (and with some variation in wording the alt-right) to reply something like "but Obama bombed innocent civilians" or "but the CIA, blah blah, color revolutions, yada yada" or "they just want to defend themselves from the evil US" or similar BS.

Both love Trump. The alt-right loves Trump because he is close to them. The far-left says that Trump just shows the true colors of the evil west and the US, and that the US has always been like this and we should all follow Putin because he is such a great guy.

At least that's the way I see it in German news article comment sections. They are flooded with brainwashed Putin lovers from both sides. Horrible. I'm afraid this comment flooding is what brainwashes even more readers...

JI7

(89,240 posts)
16. russia is not communist but she is paid by putin
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jul 2017

Stein herself is not communist or even socialist.

She is s Putin troll.

kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
20. I always wondered where she got her money to run those expensive ads on tv
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jul 2017

I subscribe to a bunch of progressive and green causes. But Never got a donation solicitation email from her. I knew then she was meant to take votes away from Hilary.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
26. No. She's a right leaning libertarian that avoids red meat.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jul 2017

Russia is Libertarian gangster economy. Not communist or socialist.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
28. One could certainly argue that given how the nuclear club is treated differently
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jul 2017

from the rest of the world, that it is entirely rational for a country like North Korea to want to join. I'm not saying that makes for a better world, but it's certainly not irrational. I'm not trying to defend Stein here. She's an opportunist and a dope. But there is some logic in her statements on North Korea.

xor

(1,204 posts)
32. Ehnn. I don't agree with everything she said there, but she is right in a few ways.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jul 2017

Ultimately a war with North Korea will hurt South Korea more than anything. The South Koreans lives literally hang in the balance here. Even in the best case outcome of a war, South Korea will have hundreds of thousand or even millions of deaths of their people. The regular north korean people will obviously suffer even more, and then there would be a massive humanitarian crisis as a result. I don't really understand why Stein is making it out like North Korea is an unwilling victim here, though.

As for Russia, ehnn. She seems a bit too forgiving of Putin there. However, she is right about needing to also focus on finding solutions to preventing it from happening again. The more technical hacking type stuff actually seems like the "easiest" area to correct. We can't stop it all, but can make it a lot less easy through better technology and use training. The real difficult thing is use of propaganda that exploits our nation's partisan weaknesses. Conservatives seem more susceptible to it now, but they can target us too and as they refine their processes we might not even realize that we're being played just like Trumpkinites were/are. I would like to see more effort put toward finding ways to combat that.

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