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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJill Stein is a communist and works for Russia - Watch this.....
Link to tweet
Could it be anymore obvious, she works for Russia.....
MineralMan
(146,116 posts)She adapts to whatever environment she's in, I guess. A chameleon, of sorts, it seems.
oasis
(49,108 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... that's who.
oasis
(49,108 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,344 posts)I know did ... and continue to justify doing so.
So they are no longer in my life.
oasis
(49,108 posts)pnwmom
(108,915 posts)ananda
(28,759 posts)Well, it never really was truly communist, but it
called itself that and there was a socialist system
of sorts in place, although it was controlled
by totalitarian fascism.
Now, it's just out and out totalitarian mafia controlled.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)davekriss
(4,600 posts)The State owned the means of production. Not the people, not the entrepreneur. Just the State. Which morphed into the current kleptocracy we see today. With the fall of the Soviet Union, the State sold off its assets at pennies on the dollar to its favorite few, birthing the Oligarchs who now rule like feudal lords over the people of Russia.
elleng
(129,800 posts)just slam slam slam.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They are both fascist which is what Putin is trying to accomplish here and Stein loves her some Putin.
So that makes her a fascist in my book. Same as Trump and his fascist party. She just hides the fact for the gullible.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,070 posts)but is merely a gigantic criminal enterprise?
brush
(53,333 posts)Her and the Greens Quixotic presence every four years on the ballot just enables repug wins.
Wonder if her and Nader had a formal baton passing ceremony?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)My opinion.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)obamanut2012
(25,869 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Russia hasn't been Communist for a very long time now.
LonePirate
(13,379 posts)I wonder if they have changed their opinion of her. I doubt it.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)She is a remnant of a far-left that has trained itself to hate the West, and still harbors sympathies with Russia, despite their turn to autocratic kleptocracy. Russia is now what the far left always asserted the US has been, but old habits die hard.
Ezior
(505 posts)No matter which crimes Kim Jong Un, Putin or Maduro are accused of - count on the far-left (and with some variation in wording the alt-right) to reply something like "but Obama bombed innocent civilians" or "but the CIA, blah blah, color revolutions, yada yada" or "they just want to defend themselves from the evil US" or similar BS.
Both love Trump. The alt-right loves Trump because he is close to them. The far-left says that Trump just shows the true colors of the evil west and the US, and that the US has always been like this and we should all follow Putin because he is such a great guy.
At least that's the way I see it in German news article comment sections. They are flooded with brainwashed Putin lovers from both sides. Horrible. I'm afraid this comment flooding is what brainwashes even more readers...
obamanut2012
(25,869 posts)She isn't the least bit a leftie.
JI7
(89,151 posts)Stein herself is not communist or even socialist.
She is s Putin troll.
kimbutgar
(20,764 posts)I subscribe to a bunch of progressive and green causes. But Never got a donation solicitation email from her. I knew then she was meant to take votes away from Hilary.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)obamanut2012
(25,869 posts)Please.
tenderfoot
(8,421 posts)Russia is Libertarian gangster economy. Not communist or socialist.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)from the rest of the world, that it is entirely rational for a country like North Korea to want to join. I'm not saying that makes for a better world, but it's certainly not irrational. I'm not trying to defend Stein here. She's an opportunist and a dope. But there is some logic in her statements on North Korea.
Renew Deal
(81,774 posts)Just like her supporters
onecaliberal
(32,373 posts)xor
(1,204 posts)Ultimately a war with North Korea will hurt South Korea more than anything. The South Koreans lives literally hang in the balance here. Even in the best case outcome of a war, South Korea will have hundreds of thousand or even millions of deaths of their people. The regular north korean people will obviously suffer even more, and then there would be a massive humanitarian crisis as a result. I don't really understand why Stein is making it out like North Korea is an unwilling victim here, though.
As for Russia, ehnn. She seems a bit too forgiving of Putin there. However, she is right about needing to also focus on finding solutions to preventing it from happening again. The more technical hacking type stuff actually seems like the "easiest" area to correct. We can't stop it all, but can make it a lot less easy through better technology and use training. The real difficult thing is use of propaganda that exploits our nation's partisan weaknesses. Conservatives seem more susceptible to it now, but they can target us too and as they refine their processes we might not even realize that we're being played just like Trumpkinites were/are. I would like to see more effort put toward finding ways to combat that.