Often when I ask someone to provide a brief video summary for us deafies,

[tblue37]

I get told to just use the closed captions.

Sometimes a video from a major institutional source provides good CC, but most video CC is absolute gibberish.

I just tried to watch a video with CC here on DU, and the CC was, though not the worst I have seen, bad enough to make my point.

Please view the CC on this video to see what I mean:

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[tblue37]

1. Around 1:05 and following is a sequence that leads to the immortal poetry of

"more hardly sushi even cardigan hey."

That CC comment embodies the difficulty of relying on CC.

[jberryhill]

10. Yeah, but I don't know what they are saying there either

They are both crosstalking and making various guttural and surprise noises.

There is speech there, but it is not intelligible, and there is a musical track that makes it even harder to tell what they are saying.

[tblue37]

11. But such gibberish is typical even when there is no issue with such impediments. nt

[jberryhill]

14. Well, it's a bad example

That's all I can say. The speech, at that point, is not intelligible.

[Corvo Bianco]

16. But if OP can't hear then they don't know what you know. I think that's the point of CC.

It should say "not intelligible", not talk about sushi, lol.

[jberryhill]

17. Voice recognition will always come up with something

The "video summary" is "Irish guys watch football, have no idea what is going on, and speak in difficult accents".

But, running anything that sounds like a voice through voice recognition software will come up with "something" that is a closest match to its training profile. Voice recognition assumes a voice is saying something intelligible. It will not come up with "unintelligible".

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. I *think* it's "more hurdling - seems to be a big part of it"

but I had to relisten to catch that (I'm British, so I hear a fair amount of Irish accents, but not all the time). It is mumbled. I doubt many Americans would get it the first time.

[spanone]

2. that's horrific

[tblue37]

3. And it is typical. nt

[spanone]

4. damn.

[tblue37]

8. You see why we deafies get frustrated when told to just use the CCs.

It's like being told to RTFM* when you ask a reasonable technical question about computers.

I don't think RTFM is still a thing, but it was for a time the common response when a non techie asked for help with a computer problem.

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* Read the f***ing manual.

[forgotmylogin]

5. I actually wrote CC for a couple YouTube videos.

It was actually kind of fun. If you ever have time to kill, it's quite easy. You go from the gear menu to CC and if the video poster hasn't restricted it, there's an "add CC" option. It takes a little experimentation to learn, but once you get the rhythm it's very Zen.

[Deb]

15. Thank you!

[jberryhill]

6. Not all "English speakers" can be intelligbly understood by Americans anyway

There are some Irish and Scottish accents for which being able to hear isn't really much of a help either.

If the CC system is using voice recognition trained on American speakers, there's no way it's going to come up with anything that makes sense.

There are plenty of Americans with perfect hearing, who would not understand a lot of what those two guys are saying anyway.

[tblue37]

9. Well, all I can say to that is

More hardly sushi even cardigan hey.

Amirite?

[jberryhill]

12. I hear just fine and have no idea what they are saying at that point

The speech is unintelligible there.

The closed captions are fine for most of the intelligible speech in that video.

But, yeah, at the point it says "more hardly sushi even cardigan hey" they are both speaking excitedly at the same time and there is just no way to know what either of them is saying.

[underpants]

13. Steve Mcmanaman - British football analyst

When he first started on TV my buddies and I couldn't figure what he was saying half the time.

[RKP5637]

7. Why do the purple and red soda cans keep reversing back and forth! n/t

[DavidDvorkin]

19. Thank you for posting this

From someone with the same problem.