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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:12 PM Sep 2017

The time to think about the next hurricane is **NOW**

If you live on the Gulf Coast or East Coast start gathering up your supplies and make your plans NOW.



Food - you don't have to cook
Paper and plastic utensils and bowls/plates
Water
Flashlight
Battery operated radio.
Batteries
Toilet paper
Plastic garbage bags
Meds - and get them refilled if you can.

Gather up important papers - store in a waterproof container.
Proper pet carriers and pet food.
Cat litter and a box.

If you are in the Deep South - get a battery operated fan and a cooling spray mister.

Do your laundry well before the storm.

Keep you gas tank full - and maybe some extra in safe containers

Plan an evacuation route and alternatives.

Get some cash - small bills and coins - or Travelers Checks
5 gallon buckets
Chlorine bleach

Have a phone charger in your car.

If you have the inclination - order a solar/crank phone charger and a solar shower on-line and have it delivered overnight.

Don't wait until the last minute to evacuate.

DO NOT TRUST THE HURRICANE UNTIL IT HAS MADE LANDFALL AND GOES EXTRATROPICAL.

Do I hate hurricanes?

You bet your sweet bippy I do...

edit - the only safe way to heat water indoors is with a Sterno Stove - and they need matches.
And text messages have a better chance to get through than phone calls...

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The time to think about the next hurricane is **NOW** (Original Post) jpak Sep 2017 OP
PLEASE add to your list, oh what are those window breaker things called Skittles Sep 2017 #1
And *Turn around - don't drown" jpak Sep 2017 #5
Good post malaise Sep 2017 #2
Plane ticket.. HipChick Sep 2017 #3
Ha malaise Sep 2017 #6
That's kinda what I'm planning.. HipChick Sep 2017 #8
or you might need tickets to them? barbtries Sep 2017 #11
We live some distance from the coast - we're fine malaise Sep 2017 #13
what do you base that on? barbtries Sep 2017 #16
Storms that intenify so early tend to go WNW and then NE malaise Sep 2017 #19
yep. barbtries Sep 2017 #23
Models have consistently been trending west today B2G Sep 2017 #24
That wobble is also included in the models but it's way too early to know where it's going malaise Sep 2017 #39
How much are models going to breakdown dbackjon Sep 2017 #41
No B2G Sep 2017 #42
The farther west and south it goes - the higher the probability of a US landfall jpak Sep 2017 #21
Aren't you in Jamaica? Motley13 Sep 2017 #28
Yep malaise Sep 2017 #33
Good advice jpak jambo101 Sep 2017 #4
I've been in 3 hurricanes - the first 2 were not supposed to hit where I was located jpak Sep 2017 #7
That's why I post NOAA's Tropical Weather Outlook once there's something out there malaise Sep 2017 #12
thank you. barbtries Sep 2017 #9
Those of us who have lived in hurricane country for many years are always prepared FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #10
I lived on the western panhandle and gasoline supplies evaporated days before a watch was declared jpak Sep 2017 #14
Jeff Masters says it best malaise Sep 2017 #15
drinking water and mosquito repellent....n/t bluecollar2 Sep 2017 #17
And a weather radio jpak Sep 2017 #18
We always buy coal and put it in large garbage bags malaise Sep 2017 #20
Especially if the freezer is thawing jpak Sep 2017 #25
Yep malaise Sep 2017 #34
It was "mystery fish of the day" jpak Sep 2017 #36
ROFL malaise Sep 2017 #37
We live inland on the Gulf Coast...Pensacola, FL. Grammy23 Sep 2017 #22
I got out of Pensacola 2 days before Ivan hit jpak Sep 2017 #27
Andrew was supposed to direct hit Fort Lauderdale, so a friend of mine went to Kendall Motley13 Sep 2017 #38
I sure don't like those western tracks right through central North Carolina, where we are. mnhtnbb Sep 2017 #26
Yeah. We're in VA and remember Isabel only too well. We aren't located on Nay Sep 2017 #43
Fill bathtub with water in case you lose it so you can flush toilets Motley13 Sep 2017 #29
This jpak Sep 2017 #32
I ran into a former neighbor in the supermarket last week malaise Sep 2017 #35
My friend had just winterized his boat before non hurricane Sandy Not Ruth Sep 2017 #30
Video: Kingofalldems Sep 2017 #31
Another old storm memory from the 60s Motley13 Sep 2017 #40
My hurricane prep is easy misanthrope Sep 2017 #44
The mister and the fan worked for me after Katrina when the power went out jpak Sep 2017 #45

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
1. PLEASE add to your list, oh what are those window breaker things called
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:17 PM
Sep 2017

a DUer posted something about that recently

OK I Googled: "Emergency Auto Hammer"

malaise

(268,925 posts)
13. We live some distance from the coast - we're fine
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:50 PM
Sep 2017

Miami in peak season is never an option.

Truthfully I think Irma will miss both of us

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
16. what do you base that on?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:20 PM
Sep 2017

i get the impression that nobody really knows what it's going to do. tried to get clarity but no luck.

do you think it's coming to the US?

malaise

(268,925 posts)
19. Storms that intenify so early tend to go WNW and then NE
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:24 PM
Sep 2017

causing problems for Bermuda and Nova Scotia or just become fish storms,

Still we can't let our guards down. It's early days and how far south Irma dips before the WNW trek will decide our collective fates.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
24. Models have consistently been trending west today
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:37 PM
Sep 2017

A sharp NE turn out ot sea is becoming less likely.

malaise

(268,925 posts)
39. That wobble is also included in the models but it's way too early to know where it's going
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:47 PM
Sep 2017

I'm watching the Leewards for now - if it misses them, that's great news.

We're ready for whatever is coming.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
41. How much are models going to breakdown
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:05 PM
Sep 2017

With climate change, warming oceans and a weakened jet stream?


Steering currents are being disrupted.

Past performance is out the window.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
42. No
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 09:05 PM
Sep 2017

Models are run based on the data at the time of the run. Climate change has nothing to do with the models.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
21. The farther west and south it goes - the higher the probability of a US landfall
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:30 PM
Sep 2017

It will eventually make the turn northward.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
28. Aren't you in Jamaica?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:53 PM
Sep 2017

I'm in Fort Lauderdale 3 miles from ocean. Wilma was our last one, 12 days w/o power. It was in Oct, so not blistering hot.
Andrew was in Aug, 5 days w/o power. I really feel for Houston. I didn't lose my house or car.



malaise

(268,925 posts)
33. Yep
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:27 PM
Sep 2017

Irma's not coming for me - maybe we have to worry about the one behind -he'll be Jose and there will be a wall of irony if that one reaches the US mainland.

We had weeks and weeks without water and power after Gilbert in 1988.

You know the combination of inconvenience, no power, heat and humidity and disgusting smells are hard to take. I feel so sorry for all the folks who were battered by Harvey and its rain.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
7. I've been in 3 hurricanes - the first 2 were not supposed to hit where I was located
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:31 PM
Sep 2017

I was on the bad side of Katrina - but far enough away from the eye to be safe.

70 mph winds with higher gusts - but we only lost power for 9 hours.

By Katrina - I was well prepared.

But after Katrina, their was no gasoline or diesel for nearly a month.

I had enough gas on hand to get to Atlanta though.

malaise

(268,925 posts)
12. That's why I post NOAA's Tropical Weather Outlook once there's something out there
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Sep 2017

It's peak season - everyone should be ready for the worst.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
10. Those of us who have lived in hurricane country for many years are always prepared
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:44 PM
Sep 2017

and we always keep an eye on the tropical weather.

All the newcomers however,....

jpak

(41,757 posts)
14. I lived on the western panhandle and gasoline supplies evaporated days before a watch was declared
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:51 PM
Sep 2017

After Katrina - there was no gas for a month and the shelves of the local Albertson's were empty - for weeks.

Seeing those empty shelves was shocking to me.

This was real.

malaise

(268,925 posts)
15. Jeff Masters says it best
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:11 PM
Sep 2017
Irma is more than a week away from any possible U.S. impacts. Bear in mind that, on average, long-range hurricane forecasts beyond 7 days have very little skill when it comes to specific locations and intensities, and much could change in the coming days. The idea is not to take a particular track or strength forecast as gospel at this point, but to be aware that a major hurricane could be approaching North America in the 1- to 2-week time frame.


https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-intensifying-eastern-atlantic-big-long-range-questions

malaise

(268,925 posts)
20. We always buy coal and put it in large garbage bags
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:26 PM
Sep 2017

the BBQ works well if you're not flooded out and you may as well have cook outs if there's no power.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
25. Especially if the freezer is thawing
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:38 PM
Sep 2017

After my first hurricane - I had no food, no car, no water, no money - for two weeks.

I drank distilled water from the lab (I was smart enough to make 20 liters before the storm).

The Aquarium freezers were thawing (no power) - and every night, we had a fish fry using the thawed fish specimens.

That's all I had to eat and drink - and it was so hot and humid, I couldn't sleep - it sucked.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
22. We live inland on the Gulf Coast...Pensacola, FL.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:34 PM
Sep 2017

We stayed through Ivan bevause my husband's job required he secure his work area and by the time that was finished, it was too late to evacuate. So we hunkered down. We are old hands at this hurricane business, having been through several over our lives. We are not near tidal surge areas and flooding is unlikely given the location of our house. However, my husband announced a short while ago that if it appears we will get a direct hit, we will be leaving. Sitting out a storm is stressful and difficult. But...it is the time after the storm that gets to you. Lack of power, low water pressure, water not drinkable, fuel and food supplies running out, etc. And that is if the damage is minimal. It is much harder than you imagine. The September heat and humidity is brutal. We've been there---done that. So we will watch this one...Irma....closely and make a decision once the reliable forecasts indicate a high probability it will be in our area. That will probably be a week or more from now. But we are updating several times a day so if the time frame speeds up, we are ready for that, too.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
27. I got out of Pensacola 2 days before Ivan hit
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:44 PM
Sep 2017

It had 162 mph sustained winds and it was making a beeline toward P-cola.

Gas was running out and people were panicking.

I had 2 cars almost hit me as I was leaving - they crossed a median strip and didn't stop to get at a gas station that still had gas.

I went to Tuscaloosa - and Ivan followed me there - 70 mph tropical storm.

I left after that and stayed in Maine for 3 weeks.


Motley13

(3,867 posts)
38. Andrew was supposed to direct hit Fort Lauderdale, so a friend of mine went to Kendall
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:43 PM
Sep 2017

a Miami suburb, luckily for us the storm dropped south & totally wiped out that area. She made it though.

Any evacuation has to start days in advance, otherwise you are stuck on the freeway, and no guarantee you are not driving into it.
Especially South Florida, you can only go north.



Nay

(12,051 posts)
43. Yeah. We're in VA and remember Isabel only too well. We aren't located on
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

an area that floods, but the extensive treefall wiped out houses, knocked out electricity to hundreds of thousands of homes for a couple of weeks, and blocked so many roads that moving around was impossible. We were overseas at the time and came home to neighborhood wreckage. Our house was OK, but many weren't. We packed business clothes to go to work because we had to shower there for a while.

Now that we are retired, I think we'll evacuate, even though we now own a generator that would keep the lights on at least.

malaise

(268,925 posts)
35. I ran into a former neighbor in the supermarket last week
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:34 PM
Sep 2017

We were talking about the season to date and she said she and her husband never forgot the two cold beers I gave them weeks into the post-Gilbert no electricity days. I had a friend with a generator and was able to pickup ice, cold beer and cold water daily.

We'd share with neighbors and they'd share what they had. We'd buy fresh fish on a regular beach - Hellshire and light up the BBQ again.

Everyone needs just one hurricane to appreciate the simple things in life.

I remember crying about all the trees that were destroyed and an old man told me they'd all be back in seven years - he was right. He had experienced Charlie in the 50s.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
30. My friend had just winterized his boat before non hurricane Sandy
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:00 PM
Sep 2017

Including removing almost 200 gallons of pump gas that he was kept in his garage, for the next season. That got him through the next month after Sandy. The boat, on dry land, washed away, down the street. Recovered with a few holes in it. Insurance paid more than he thought it was worth and then sold it back to him for pennies. For some reason, he fixed all the holes except for one that was pretty high up. We rode around for years in that boat. Hole was always a conversation starter. The biggest surprise was how easy insurance adjusters were to work with. He had a freezer that was destroyed. The adjuster paid for a new freezer and then added on another thousand for the contents without even being asked.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
40. Another old storm memory from the 60s
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:49 PM
Sep 2017

I lived close to the beach & we decided to go watch the storm come in.. The waves were throwing fish onto the shore & people had buckets picking up fish from the sand.
A few minutes later a huge wave came in & we thought it a good idea to leave.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
44. My hurricane prep is easy
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:15 PM
Sep 2017

I leave if possible. I have emphysema and the only thing that makes life in the Gulf Coast's oppressive weather bearable is air conditioning. I'm beyond miserable without it and after one post-hurricane experience, I won't go through it again.

By the way, the cooling spray mister you suggest is useless on the Gulf Coast and a lot of the Deep South. The high dew point and relative humidity indices eliminate evaporation.

I would also suggest mosquito repellant of some sort. Post-hurricane life is a return to pre-20th century life in a lot of regards and you understand very quickly why mosquito-borne epidemics of yellow fever and malaria were so common. Nowadays we have West Nile and Eastern Equine Encephalitis to add to the mix.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
45. The mister and the fan worked for me after Katrina when the power went out
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:17 PM
Sep 2017

and yes bug dope is a thing to have.

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