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Hilarious Joel Osteen memes (Original Post) underpants Sep 2017 OP
Here's one a buddy sent me Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #1
I cannot understand how SO many people fall for someone like Osteen or Trump Skittles Sep 2017 #2
Yep... Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #3
oh wow Skittles Sep 2017 #4
Yeah, wouldn't wish that on anyone... Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #11
Holy cow. murielm99 Sep 2017 #14
Agree completely... Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #15
There are many ways to study cults. murielm99 Sep 2017 #24
I do have such family members. murielm99 Sep 2017 #12
I have no use for him either! Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #16
People see what they want to see marylandblue Sep 2017 #7
Yep. Simon & Garfunkel got it right in The Boxer. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #21
Incredible story underpants Sep 2017 #26
That's surprising and somewhat encouraging... Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #32
Spend some time in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #25
honey, I've been Texas over four decades Skittles Sep 2017 #30
And I've lived in Oklahoma for 4 decades. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #34
As I posted below - evangelicals and regular church folk see right through him. underpants Sep 2017 #27
Because WAY before those two they fell for Baker and Robertson..... Bengus81 Sep 2017 #39
Mock him into irrelevance... dhill926 Sep 2017 #5
Great idea: L. Coyote Sep 2017 #19
I hope this destroys him. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #6
IMO many attend because of prestige bobbieinok Sep 2017 #42
Here's another one Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #8
Another one Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #9
Saw one today. Norbert Sep 2017 #10
What a douche! longship Sep 2017 #13
My favorite dsc Sep 2017 #17
Watch him blink his eyes while trying to explain away ,... Jimbo101 Sep 2017 #18
i keep waiting for him to do his famous grunt. unblock Sep 2017 #20
Gosh, there is a resemblance. nt yonder Sep 2017 #22
Never noticed that before underpants Sep 2017 #23
Did the guy from the furniture store plan in advance, NOOOOO, he came forward when the need Motley13 Sep 2017 #28
Exactly underpants Sep 2017 #29
Yup. And until his stores reopen as stores TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #41
I worked for a lady who had kidney cancer, she went to see Leroy Jenkins blueinredohio Sep 2017 #31
why am I not surprised, maybe she died in peace thinking that crap Motley13 Sep 2017 #35
Bow down to $$$ ye sinners!! workinclasszero Sep 2017 #33
Such a worthy target. May the wrath and smartass remarks continue. (nt) Paladin Sep 2017 #36
Knock knock Tactical Peek Sep 2017 #37
/ underpants Sep 2017 #38
Why don't their followers ever notice that the only ones getting prosperous TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #40

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
2. I cannot understand how SO many people fall for someone like Osteen or Trump
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 04:51 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

they're so freaking OBVIOUS

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
3. Yep...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:10 PM
Sep 2017

It's the PT Barnum schtick wrapped in the cloak of "Christianity". These charlatans are taking advantage of the most vulnerable all in the name of "religion". What they are selling bears zero resemblance to the actual scriptures of Christ, which any person, no matter their religious beliefs or lack there of, SHOULD be able to see clearly. Yet, there are always those who are charismatic enough in their message to convince people that "their message" is the true interpretation.
My great aunt was a follower of Jim Jones in his early days in Indianapolis. She was a civil rights activist and was lured into his message of racial unity. She became so enthralled in the message that she followed him to California, throughout all of his moves there, and came close to following him to Jonestown. She didn't, but the experience left her broken. I never met her until decades later. In her quest to set her mind straight, she had lost all contact with her family and missed the deaths of many of her siblings, including my grandmother. My grandmother went to her grave believing her sister had died at Jonestown a decade earlier. That's the power of the charismatic leader and I think it speaks to the scary potential of the cult of Trump!

On a lighter note, my wife and I joke frequently that we're going to start a church called "Stairway to Heaven"...ala Osteen's church! Lol

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
11. Yeah, wouldn't wish that on anyone...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:32 PM
Sep 2017

Like I said, she was my great aunt and I grew up with stories of her being a Jones follower and presumed dead in Jonestown. My grandmother died in '88 and in '96, the year I graduated high school, this lady showes up at our family reunion, it's a huge affair...my granny was one of thirteen kids, and everyone is shocked that it's my great aunt that had literally disappeared almost twenty years before! It was a truly tough thing for the family to swallow. My mother, the unexpected baby of our family, refuses to acknowledge her, mainly because of the torment my grandmother suffered wondering about her, while my uncle keeps in contact with her regularly. Perhaps it's my empathetic nature, but I truly do hurt for her. She was clearly broken by the experience and deals with unresolved mental health issues as a result, but we're seeing this type of crap play out through Trump and his cult, a man who has stated numerous times that PT Barnum was a great influence on him!

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
14. Holy cow.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

I did lose a friend at Jonestown. I have mentioned that here before. I watched people join the Moonies when I was young.

I soured on cults a long time ago. My revulsion includes people who follow political leaders with cult-like devotion. No politician or candidate is perfect, and we need to realize that. Any leader who puts themselves in the place of God, or allows their followers to do so is suspect in my mind.

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
15. Agree completely...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:43 PM
Sep 2017

Perhaps it's because of my families experience, but I have a healthy dose of skepticism for charismatic leaders. I also have a deep interest in studying movements like Jones' to attempt to understand why reasonable people would willingly fall into that trap. Make no mistake, Joel Osteen isn't much different than Jim Jones. The difference is Osteen has chosen to ride the money train as long as he can, and he's obscenly successful at doing so!

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
24. There are many ways to study cults.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:23 PM
Sep 2017

It helps to have a common definition of what constitutes a cult.

This article is good: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/may/27/cults-definition-religion

I first studied about cults by reading a Christian author, Martin, who wrote "The Kingdom of the Cults." That books has been through several revisions.

Max Weber also studied cult behavior and wrote about it. So did a woman named Margaret Singer, who wrote about cults for the American Psychiatric Association. Robert Lifton has also written about cults.

No matter which definition you choose, I think it is always best to understand that there is a charismatic leader who eventually takes on the role of God. No one is allowed to question him. The groups are exclusive and often secretive. They may coerce their members by threatening to shun or disfellowship them.

I don't think all religions are cults. I am a Christian, and would run, not walk away from any church that started displaying cult like behavior.

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
12. I do have such family members.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:33 PM
Sep 2017

Their heads are up their asses so far that they can't hear you when you point out the obvious about these charlatans.

One of them is a lifelong Democrat who voted for 45 because she does not like Hillary's stand on abortion. When I pointed out that the Democrats have always been pro-choice, she did not hear me. I guess she is too busy reading her Bible every day.

I am a Christian, and I have no use for people like Osteen.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. People see what they want to see
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:18 PM
Sep 2017

They want to see a God who acts like a giant ATM in the sky, and Osteen helps them see it. It's a win-win!

underpants

(182,627 posts)
26. Incredible story
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:26 PM
Sep 2017

Osteen literally fell into it. His father, who started the church, died suddenly and Joel literally pulled his face out of hookers and blow to take over. He has no divinity training and has devoted no time to study it. He's all vague generalities like a motivational speaker. I wasn't aware of him until an evangelical i used to work with went off on him "He doesn't know scripture!" It drives them crazy. They see it too.

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
32. That's surprising and somewhat encouraging...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:22 PM
Sep 2017

I've followed his sad act for years and I've been astonished at how he's able to sway folks with such a bare minimum understanding of scripture. That folks are picking up on that, even if they are evangelical, is encouraging!

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
25. Spend some time in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:24 PM
Sep 2017

It'll make sense. These States (and others like them) have poorly funded public education systems and are high in every index you don't want to be high in - illiteracy, health problems like heart disease and diabetes, poverty etc.

fertile ground for slime like osteen.

underpants

(182,627 posts)
27. As I posted below - evangelicals and regular church folk see right through him.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:30 PM
Sep 2017

Osteen literally fell into it. His father, who started the church, died suddenly and Joel literally pulled his face out of hookers and blow to take over. He has no divinity training and has devoted no time to study it. He's all vague generalities like a motivational speaker. I wasn't aware of him until an evangelical i used to work with went off on him "He doesn't know scripture!" It drives them crazy. They see it too.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
39. Because WAY before those two they fell for Baker and Robertson.....
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 10:25 AM
Sep 2017

And Falwell,and Swaggart and and......

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. I hope this destroys him.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:15 PM
Sep 2017

Anyone who follows this asshole after this deserves to be conned out of their money.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
42. IMO many attend because of prestige
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:42 PM
Sep 2017

It/he has a national and international reputation.

Common Houston area question: 'where do you go to church?' A point of pride to answer 'Lakewood.'

IMO many who attend will be embarassed to admit they go there.

I suspect those wno attend are upper-mid and upper class.

Would be interesting to know how many members have been flooded out and are in shelters.

Also, how many blacks or Hispanics attend the church.

Jimbo101

(776 posts)
18. Watch him blink his eyes while trying to explain away ,...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:04 PM
Sep 2017

The main story is debunked (No, He didn't sail his yacht through Houston during Harvey - after all it would have been too windy)

Houston Chronicle

You don't need Dr. Cal Lightman (Lie to Me) to tell that he's having a problem with the truth.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
20. i keep waiting for him to do his famous grunt.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:37 PM
Sep 2017

but i might be confusing him with tim allen. so hard to tell them apart....

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
28. Did the guy from the furniture store plan in advance, NOOOOO, he came forward when the need
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 07:42 PM
Sep 2017

was there.
All these blood sucking, money grubbing parasitic, hypocrites make me furious. And the fools fall for it.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
31. I worked for a lady who had kidney cancer, she went to see Leroy Jenkins
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:15 PM
Sep 2017

got touched and healed by him. She died from kidney cancer.

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