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Let's start with Melania shall we? (Original Post) SHRED Sep 2017 OP
Wasn't Trump's mother an immigrant? Retrograde Sep 2017 #1
45's mother was born in Scotland DesertRat Sep 2017 #17
Yes, Let's Leith Sep 2017 #2
we know she lied about a college degree that she needed for the status mopinko Sep 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #5
But, but, but, she's Slavic, not Hispanic ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #4
She's white, not brown. We all know that's the reason the conservative media will give her a pass. TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #7
Vlad* probably helped "pick her out." Raster Sep 2017 #18
Start with Melania, and then move on to all those exploited eastern european models TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #6
They will find lots of VISA issues as well as ... BamaRefugee Sep 2017 #8
You're right, but I think Eliot Spitzer was the last rich guy to pay for an 'escort' on PLASTIC. TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #9
you're right but I couldn't have made the joke otherwise ;-) BamaRefugee Sep 2017 #14
Or you smile for the camera... Raster Sep 2017 #19
Schneiderman is looking into that Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #36
Normally I say "leave Melania alone" Nevernose Sep 2017 #10
Quote of the month, leading for quote of the year! PdxSean Sep 2017 #13
I grew up in an entertainment-industry family in Las Vegas Nevernose Sep 2017 #15
I think Melania, like Trump's other wives, is just sweating out this 'job' until she can divorce him TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #31
Imagine going back to the regs that punished the employer! Ilsa Sep 2017 #23
Ivana too crazycatlady Sep 2017 #11
Pretty Woman Goonch Sep 2017 #12
Shitty woman Aviation Pro Sep 2017 #22
Good gawd! 3catwoman3 Sep 2017 #26
She's not brown nini Sep 2017 #16
Have we ever seen Ivana's, either? George II Sep 2017 #20
Lawrence O'Donnell had her immigration attorrney on one night. Ilsa Sep 2017 #21
It is reported she made $20,000 before she got her green card Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #24
I want someone to bring forth that proof, so we can Ilsa Sep 2017 #25
you could start here Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #28
Thank you. That has me convinced that she broke the law. Ilsa Sep 2017 #37
I can't imagine he's say anything ELSE, if he wants to go on bein an immigration lawyer. TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #32
This is not way to get back at Trump Boomer Sep 2017 #27
Melania is fair game not because we have anything against HER, but because she's yet another TrollBuster9090 Sep 2017 #33
Got paid for 10 modeling assignments before legal. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #29
Her parents live here, in Scarsdale Sep 2017 #30
after the demands for Obama's birth certificate treestar Sep 2017 #34
we are still waiting for that interview she was supposed to give about her immigration Motley13 Sep 2017 #35

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
17. 45's mother was born in Scotland
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:25 PM
Sep 2017

Where was he born? Do we know for sure? Have we seen his long form birth certificate or college records?

mopinko

(69,982 posts)
3. we know she lied about a college degree that she needed for the status
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:10 PM
Sep 2017

that she claimed.

eta- and may very well have been a trafficked person.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
7. She's white, not brown. We all know that's the reason the conservative media will give her a pass.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:44 PM
Sep 2017

But they can't say that out loud. Instead, we'll hear a lot of noise about how she was a BUSINESS person, who had a JOB and created EMPLOYMENT and blah blah bhal.

And I can already hear the conservative media (who spent eight years attacking Michelle Obama) gearing up the talking points about how family members of politicians are supposed to be out of bounds, but the 'left' is so uncivilized that anybody's 'fair game.' (Valerie Plame won't miss the irony of that one.)

But let's just remember that...

1. TRUMP was the one who made immigration an issue, and

2. TRUMP was the one who TOLD us that Melania would have a press conference, and show all her documents to prove that she wasn't an illegal alien working in the US without a visa...

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
6. Start with Melania, and then move on to all those exploited eastern european models
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

who were brought in to work for the Trump modelling agency. I think, if somebody bothers to look, they'll find a lot of visa issues there.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
8. They will find lots of VISA issues as well as ...
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:45 PM
Sep 2017

...MasterCard issues, American Express issues, lots of issues on how guys paid for them as the, shall we say "escorts" they actually were.

And the pimp called Carrot Top who deployed them.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
9. You're right, but I think Eliot Spitzer was the last rich guy to pay for an 'escort' on PLASTIC.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:47 PM
Sep 2017

The Russians have since taught everybody that you pay cash.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
36. Schneiderman is looking into that
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:32 PM
Sep 2017

Trump model management is being investigated for human trafficking with links to Russia.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
10. Normally I say "leave Melania alone"
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:53 PM
Sep 2017

And the reposed are usually 2-1 against me. I'm good with that. She's essentially a Slovenian hooker who got a sex worker's dream job (married to an American billionaire more interested in a trophy wife than an actual marriage), and I still kind of feel bad for her current situation. It's not the job she signed up for. They want her to say and do something a normal wife would do, but she's not a normal wife: she's an employee.

Her status as an immigrant, however, is totally germane to the national conversation (as opposed to the choice of footwear of an Eastern European sex worker). Not only should we be bringing it up at every chance, so should she. Shame on her.

In fact, I was talking to an actual RW nutjob this morning (nice guy, drove me ninety miles to the airport) who loves guns, hates Obama, and doubled his weekly donation to Joel Osteen this week because "he's getting lied on by the liberals and the atheists." He's also married to a Central American immigrant.

And even THAT lunatic thinks deporting the DACA kids is wrong ("they just did what their parents and their government told them to do&quot , and went one step further and said that if we just punished the people HIRING the illegal immigrants, the immigration would stop overnight and would be cheaper for the taxpayers. So even some of the Teabaggers are opposed to this. Sounds good at a rally, but messed up in real life.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
13. Quote of the month, leading for quote of the year!
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:58 PM
Sep 2017

" She's essentially a Slovenian hooker who got a sex worker's dream job."

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
15. I grew up in an entertainment-industry family in Las Vegas
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
Sep 2017

Plus, I used to live in a lot of bad neighborhoods. My attitude towards sex workers is unusual, granted, but generally positive. I was trying to be funny, but I honestly wasn't trying to insult her.

There's quite a few people who marry for worse reasons and/or have worse jobs.

Really, if you think about it, she's parlayed sexy photo shoots into a high-paying, lifetime job, way cushier than most of us will ever have. So good for her.

Edit: except pimps and traffickers. Those people are the worst human beings alive, modern day slave-traders. I get infuriated just thinking about them.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
31. I think Melania, like Trump's other wives, is just sweating out this 'job' until she can divorce him
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:31 PM
Sep 2017

and take half of the wealth he's accumulated during the time they were married.

Although, at this point, she's got to be worried if there will be much of his fortune left to take him for in divorce court. (She's probably one of only three or four people who knows his actual worth.) When he was just doing crooked real estate deals, and ripping people off with a fake College, and a reality TV show, he was at least making some money. But being President has shone a spotlight on his illegal business activities, and he could end up spending years in court, and spending millions on lawyers. I'm thinking maybe she and Trump's kids are hoping he bails out of this Presidential gig fairly soon.

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
26. Good gawd!
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:09 PM
Sep 2017

Caricatures are often not very flattering, but this one reaches a new level of "eewwwwwwwwwwwwww!"

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
21. Lawrence O'Donnell had her immigration attorrney on one night.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:43 PM
Sep 2017

The man said he is/was a Hillary supporter. He said her stuff was all by the book, and that she had not worked illegally in the US.

I've heard that she did work prior to getting her "green card." And I wonder if she had the money to pay her lawyer or if someone else did. But if becoming a citizen costs as much as I've heard, then I wonder how she paid for it.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
25. I want someone to bring forth that proof, so we can
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:04 PM
Sep 2017

throw the hypocrisy back in the R faces. I think it is likely, but I wouldn't say it until I knew the date of her work visa and had proof of her income prior to receiving it.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
37. Thank you. That has me convinced that she broke the law.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:26 PM
Sep 2017

She was/is a criminal, therefore, it should have taken her longer to get her visa.

I don't get why she got a work visa in a short amount of time while it takes others years to get a visa. It's not as if we have a shortage of models in the US.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
32. I can't imagine he's say anything ELSE, if he wants to go on bein an immigration lawyer.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:34 PM
Sep 2017

But if it WAS all above board, either HE or SHE must have the paperwork to show us. So why don't they? It would be ridiculously simple.

Boomer

(4,167 posts)
27. This is not way to get back at Trump
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:19 PM
Sep 2017

As someone has already mentioned, she's just an employee. If Trump has to throw Melania under the bus, he'll send her back to Slovenia without a blink. But keep his kid, because offspring are an extension of himself.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
33. Melania is fair game not because we have anything against HER, but because she's yet another
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:37 PM
Sep 2017

yet another example of Republican/Trump hypocrisy.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
30. Her parents live here, in
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:24 PM
Sep 2017

tRump Tower part time and Mar-A-Lago. They were members of the Communist party. How did THEY get visas? What type of work does he do, to afford that lifestyle? A former roomate said Maleria would get all dressed up in the evening, go to a "photo shoot" come back next morning with $1,500 in cash. Super models, as tRump claimed she was, do not handle their own money, they have agents for that. Also, super models do not pose for lesbian soft porn like she did. Phony as her "husband" They deserve each other.

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