Clinton Book: Now that the (not so much) sensational selected excerpts have come out.....

[George II]

....some most likely out of context or incomplete, here is a MUCH more important excerpt from the book that took days to come out.

From CNN: "I go back over my own shortcomings and the mistakes we made. I take responsibility for all of them. You can blame the data, blame the message, blame anything you want -- but I was the candidate," she writes. "It was my campaign. Those were my decisions."

Why wasn't THIS the first excerpt to be broadcast around the world?

[bettyellen]

4. She literally claims complete responsibility. It'll never be enough though.

[George II]

6. If she marched to the gallows some would ask "why did it take so long?"

[bettyellen]

22. They'd talk about her suit and if she looked unwell.

[geek tragedy]

9. Holding oneself accountable means examining the actual mistakes, not a generic statement

of taking responsibility.

John Edwards liked to say "I take responsibility" for his awful record. Spoiler alert: he never actually took responsibility.

[bettyellen]

12. Bullshit, she's gone over the multitude of reasons again and again...

It's literally never going to be enough unless she reads your own script, which is a ridiculous standard. The loss was so narrow any one thing could have or have not mattered. That everyone is using their pet reason as a cudgel to beat her with is just gross to watch. She's not going to put on a sack cloth for you all- get over it.

[R B Garr]

19. Thanks, bettyellen.

Well said.

[Justice]

24. Thank you. Great Post.

[still_one]

26. Thanks Betty. Not surprisingly, some of those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for

the Democratic nominee in the general election have no regrets for what they did, and of course take no responsibility for their contribution of the results

[lapucelle]

23. ...

"If she marched to the gallows some would ask, "Why did it take so long?'"

Looks like the poster was correct.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9562083

[all american girl]

5. What the hell is your problem

she's been taking responsibility for her loss since her loss...just admit you want her to say that Bernie would have won and she was wrong to listen to the almost 4 million voters that wanted her. Nothing will never be enough for some.

[geek tragedy]

10. What specific/mistakes/errors has she specifically identified and took ownership of? nt

[George II]

15. READ THE BOOK! You expect any media outlets, positive or negative, to devote hours....

...of their air time reading the book to their audience?

READ THE BOOK.

[all american girl]

17. She clearly stated months ago that it was on her

I know, I know, you just don't believe her because of....reasons. She can"t make you believe that's on you, but stop acting as if she hasn't taken responsibility...I have yet to hear Bernie take responsibility for his crap during the primary, his lack of help during the general, and him crapping all over dems whenever there is a microphone.

[LanternWaste]

7. That's one interpretation

That's one interpretation, an interpretation predicated on your own, self-created premise lacking any objective evidence, and only editorial to support it.

[geek tragedy]

8. "I take responsibility" is a classic politician cop out. Remember when John Edwards said "I take

responsibility" for his Iraq war pimping but never bothered to explain why he pimped the war in the first place or what he learned from his mistake?

[bettyellen]

25. Not true at all- you're making false claims about Dems yet again:

"He spoke for nearly four minutes, explaining that as a member of the Senate, and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, he got direct information on what was happening inside Iraq. And he met with high-level members of the former Clinton administration, he said, who verified what he was hearing.

“Even at the time, with all that information, I had great reservations about George Bush,” he continued. “I didn’t trust him. I thought he had an agenda. And in the end, I decided to defer to him because he was the president. It was a mistake.”

And Mr. Edwards offered some other details about when he began to reconsider his vote: after the election in 2004, he said, when his wife, Elizabeth, was diagnosed with cancer.

While Mrs. Edwards was undergoing chemotherapy and sedated, Mr. Edwards would wait, he said. “I spent a lot of time, just sitting there by myself,” he said “I came to the decision, over a period of months, that I was dead wrong and I had to say so.”'


https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/29/edwards-talks-about-his-war-vote/

[ismnotwasm]

2. I look forward to the whole book

I wondered who leaked those particular pages. Interesting how the book is unread, and there are people STILL criticizing with either a personal agenda, or from a place of ignorance.

[leftynyc]

3. Thanks for posting

And I hope it makes all those ridiculously saying she needed to own up and apologize (has a losing MALE candidate EVER been asked to apologize or beat themselves up?) look like the schmucks I always suspected they are.

[mcar]

11. It wasn't as juicy

People who thought the two pages excerpted yesterday encompassed the entire theme of the book were, perhaps, looking to rehash old tired anti-HRC tropes.

Of course she would be offering a lot of self-reflection and honesty about herself and the overall campaign. I think most of us realized that. The Bernie pages are interesting, but I expect she covers a lot of areas and people in the book.

[melman]

13. "Why wasn't THIS the first excerpt to be broadcast around the world?"

Right. Like those pages were leaked by accident.

[George II]

14. There were pre-release copies sent to many media outlets, none of the excerpts were "leaked"!

[nini]

16. Because it would have shut everyone up about her point of the book?

It's easier to bash her for her feelings at the time of that whole fiasco.

[sheshe2]

18. Thanks George.

[R B Garr]

20. Great points, thanks, George.

She has taken full responsibility. Now it's time for others to admit their failings, but I wonder if we'll ever see that...

[BainsBane]

21. Because blaming Hillary

Matters more than the truth.

[lunamagica]

27. See? Nothing is good enough for them. Perhaps if she had written

"Oh, I made such a big mistake in running. I know that some independent senator should have been the nominee and he would have trounced trump.. He would have been the BEST president ever. I'm sorry...I'm so sorry I ran... I'm so sorry I exist...Please forgive me". Would that be enough for them?

I doubt it.

Funny no one asks for "unity" in response to those posts...