I'm taking a brief vacation from DU

[Mountain Mule]

As of this writing, there are five threads on the DU home page - yes FIVE - once again refighting the primary. Both Hillary and Bernie did any number of things wrong and both did any number of things right. However, that's all in the PAST! Does everyone really want to keep on re-fighting ancient history and bashing Hillary/bashing Bernie when:

1) Trump is doing his best to get us into a war with N Korea and alienating as many of our allies as he possibly can?

2) 800,000 dreamers have been betrayed by Trump ending DACA?

3) The strongest Hurricane in a century has just decimated Houston, and another may well be headed toward Florida?

4) Climate change is ramping up all over the earth and we are quickly losing the window to prevent the more drastic impacts of global warming (see above)?

5) The repugs are back in session and hoping to push thru tax cuts for the uber wealthy at the expense of affordable housing thru HUD, food stamps, meals on wheels for the elderly, medicare/medicaid, programs to help Americans with disabilities, the EPA, NOAA, the NIH, the infrastructure, and many, many more.

6) Women across the country are losing control of their own reproductive rights.

7) The so-called president is doing his best to encourage white supremacists and attacks on minorities of every single possible kind.

8) The education of our young people is under attack - public schools are underfunded and being replaced by elitist charter schools that often only a few can afford. Tuition at public universities just keeps going through the roof and young college graduates are facing an ever accumulating mountain of debt.

9) THE MIDTERMS ARE APPROACHING!

I left out all sorts of other stuff, but I know the folks here can easily fill in all the rest of the blanks.

Frankly, my dear I don't give a damn about what Bernie said or what Hillary said. I refuse to expend any further energy on that particular dead end.

I'm hoping that if I take a couple of days off, we will back on message again. This divisive infighting is extremely discouraging, to say the least.

[MrsCoffee]

1. It was headline news on CNN when I woke up this morning.

[eleny]

2. Take care. It's a good idea to take a break now and then

But I'll tell you what I've decided just on the off chance it can help. I'm starting to delete threads of that nature. Just seeing them there can get me down. So rather than trying to ignore them I hit that delete the thread button.

Have a great break and we'll see you on the flip side.

[Mountain Mule]

6. Thank you!

And thanks for the tip on the "delete the thread button!

[eleny]

12. You're welcome

There's other little things that can be implemented to craft the atmosphere for your needs. You can even put a DUer on "ignore". I haven't done that in ages but sometimes it can make for a more pleasant experience until they get banned, lol. You don't even see their replies to your postings.

See ya!

[tymorial]

30. Yeah I do this too but there's just so freaking many

I came to the site a few years ago and I have come and gone so many times because of situations like this. It's not so much the refighting of the primaries ( which quite frankly has never really stopped... people toss remarks all the time) it is the constant repeating of the same subject over and over again. It's a variation on a theme without the nuanced examination of the subject.

Even that would be tolerable if were not for the histrionics and passive aggressive posts directed at those who diaagree even if dissent is offered politely. It is the never ending condemnation for prior decisons and political opinion; the demand for absolute adhearance to a narrative. I am not talking about supporting Democrat candidates, I believe everyone here does. I refer to behavior such we saw when Confederate memorials, the flag etc were beginning to be widely condemned after Dylan Roof committed those horrible murders. Many posters were stating that there were no true democrats in the South that northern democrats were superior in every way. It was a completely ridiculous and bigoted notion yet it was embraced by a great many. It's the same moral superiority and virtue signaling today. I am sick of it.

[Blue_true]

45. My county has the highest Dem registration since 1966.

Indies and Dems make up 140,000, republicans 102,000. Dems alone 77,000. This used to be a really red county with repugs swamping Dems 3:1.

[leftstreet]

3. The Hillary/Bernie thing will pass

These things run their course for abt 3 days.

New shiny object appears

There should be another 3 day-er in a few weeks when her book comes out

It'll also pass

[woodsprite]

7. I hope so, but you are much more optimistic than I am. n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. So what happened last year is a shiny object?

[kstewart33]

4. Hear, hear.

I know that I sometimes let myself get drawn in to commenting on one of those threads. But I'd support simply banning all Hillary-Bernie threads. It's a huge distraction from what DU should be focusing on.

Wish we could do it.

[BigmanPigman]

21. I didn't even know about DU until around Feb

so I fortunately missed all the Bernie/Hillary stuff that I read about sometimes. I have often said to myself that I am glad I wasn't aware DU at the time. There is enough to focus on NOW that is important.

[Blue_true]

44. It was a bloodbath.

I forgot my old password and followed the procedure but got no response, so I lurked until the Admins allowed new account setups after the hack.

What I saw were people of both sides that I liked at eachother's throats, trying to rip them out. Alert stalking was commonplace and triggered on a hair. It got so bad I left and tried another site where things were not as bad, but the format there sucked, so I came back. With the Our Revolution people mouthing off, I would not be surprised to see Democrats savaged in primaries in 2018 and if Our Revolution lose the primary, them supporting independents in the general while attacking the Democrat.

There are some that I don't miss, like the poster MannyGoldstein, who ALWAYS attacked Democrats, but I never saw him go after a republican.

[Warpy]

5. It's that damn book. I've trashed more threads in the past two days

than I have during the previous two years, although I did trash several forums.

If you need a mental health break, take it.

[Mountain Mule]

11. Alas, it is that damned book!

I wish the publication of it could have been delayed long enough for all the elections wounds in the party to have healed. Obviously, some still run deep.

[Ligyron]

23. Maybe somebody needed the money?

'cause some people never have enough.

[Barack_America]

33. Gotta strike while the market's hot! Party and country be damned.

[Justice]

40. Funny, even a thread complaining about retreading has

People slinging mud.

[Progressive dog]

48. It's the TV appearances

The damn book hasn't been released yet.

[flibbitygiblets]

8. It's good to have a mental health break now & then. I agree that the divisiveness here is redick.

One would almost think they were trolls, trying to divide (or at least make us weary and give up). Wish the admins would realize this and do something about it (separate area for circular firing squad, for instance).

It's very annoying at least, and too often it's disheartening and damaging.

Best to you!

[Hekate]

26. People are availing themselves of the Alert button; Jury duty has been on an uptick for me

[Ms. Toad]

34. Unfortunately, juries aren't hiding things.

I signed in to alert on one of the worst, got called to jury duty before I could hit the alert button - on the thread I signed in to alert on. The jury left it standing. I alerted on it for a different (also applicable reason) and the jury reviewing it on that basis left it standing, as well.

Way too much jury nullification going on.

[defacto7]

9. Understand your frustration, and I agree with your post.

[Xolodno]

10. I just...

...trash the threads. Not worth the effort. Blame can be placed in a lot of places, but it won't get rid of the Moscow Mule in the oval office. Continuing the divide works in his favor.

[HughBeaumont]

13. Probably a good idea.

It's been a frustrating couple of weeks here. Doesn't even feel like home any longer.

[Cirque du So-What]

14. I don't see a need to leave or even trash threads

I do, however, avoid threads where the primaries are being rehashed. The title alone is usually a dead giveaway. If a thread starts going downhill, I'm outta there toot sweet. FWIW, there are plenty of threads discussing the issues of real importance, and I read those. I don't bother trying to decipher motives for the rehash threads; if some choose to expend their energy on message-board wanking, that's their bidness.

[world wide wally]

15. Can I help you? You've reached the department of redundancy department how can I help you?

[tiredtoo]

16. i started trashing those threads

"Frankly, my dear I don't give a damn about what Bernie said or what Hillary said. I refuse to expend any further energy on that particular dead end. "

[LakeArenal]

17. Please don't be gone long....

...If everyone who is fed up with this trolling divisiveness leaves, then the trolls have accomplished their mission...

We need Mountain Mule's level head.. Keep pushing the midterms and calling out people for divisiveness.

don't let "them" push you out...

[Mountain Mule]

19. Thanks! This old Mule is as stubborn as they come!

I'm not going to get pushed out by this foolishness. Don't even DREAM you can get rid of me that easily! A bit of time spent engaging my mind on more pleasant matters, and I'll be ready to fight the good fight once again - with the caveat that the animosity between the supporters of Clinton vs. Bernie Supporters is not a "good fight."

[RandomAccess]

35. Some of the "trolls" seem to be very longterm DUers

What's up with that?

[Heartstrings]

36. Noticed that too

And ignored my 1st today.....thanks to a little advice from a friend!

It was enlightening!

[RandomAccess]

37. I'll have to figure that little trick out

In the meantime, I have to confess to a little tendency to rubberneck, with jaw on the floor over some of the lunacy I'm seeing.

[Heartstrings]

38. Pretty easy...

Just go to the "name" of whoever you want to ignore and there are a few options to chose from, ignore being one of them.....

[RandomAccess]

39. Thanks

[Heartstrings]

41. You're welcome!

[LovingA2andMI]

52. Huh Uh....

Which is interesting in itself....

[progressoid]

18. 9) THE MIDTERMS ARE APPROACHING!

I'd make that #1.

I too am taking some time off from here. There is life out there in the real world!

[Heartstrings]

42. Midterms, Midterms, Midterms!

I keep pushing them to deaf ears who apparently prefer to rehash the old rather than focusing their energy on the future....baffling and tiresome.......yawn.....

[lunatica]

20. I just skip over those threads now

It's like living with my dysfunctional parents all over again.

They fought over the something they did or didn't do to each other 30 years earlier. It didn't matter what started the fight. Eventually they would bring up every single last thing they had ever fought over all over again. It was misery on steroids for us kids!

[Ligyron]

25. Man, does that ever sound familiar.

[longship]

22. The DU two year old contingent throwing tantrums.

I just alert on them. If they don't like getting hides, that's too bad.

[Cryptoad]

24. No matter ur intent,,,,

u too have have in fact stirred the OLe BernHillary, Shit Pot with ur OP!
alert and mover on to other threads

[Hekate]

27. Mental health is #1; otherwise you can get nothing done. Breaks are a good thing....

Some of our best people periodically take a break into Real Life. Enjoy yourself and come back refreshed.

My personal tactic just now is to pass a lot of stuff by when I think it's stupid. I am not required to reply to everything.

See you soon.

[Mountain Mule]

29. I'm learning that every thread doesn't require one of my astute comments - HAH!

DU has helped me save my sanity every since that horrible early morning back in November! I thank you all for the affirmation that I am not just some lone voice crying in the Wilderness in my small redneck town. Thanks to all who replied to my moment of despair here!

[likesmountains 52]

28. Come over to Durango, let have a ccup of coffee!

[Mountain Mule]

31. Thanks for the invitation!

Drop me a line via DU Mail and maybe we can drown our woes together in coffee some time!

[physioex]

32. Don't let the door hit ya....

Where the good Lord split ya!

[sharedvalues]

43. Coincidence that Wittes et al. predicting this will be big #TrumpRussia week?

Liberals and progressives are infighting as the big news is queued up?

The biggest news in a while is this Facebook disclosure - that Facebook was exploited by Russia. But keep talking about the primaries, everyone.

[raven mad]

46. I've been known to do the same, especially during the Primaries...........

Spousal unit lets me know when I'm getting too insane (I've always be crazy), and makes me shut down for a bit. Then he relies on our local marijuana retailer and we laugh at silly movies and cat videos.

Works every time.

We'll miss you while you're gone, Mountain Mule. Have an Alaskan Amber on me.

[Beartracks]

47. Countdown to someone claiming you're coddling and defending certain voters...

... because, by not caring about this fight anymore, you're not condemning said voters!!1! -- In 3... 2...


By the way, I hear ya. Have a good time out there.

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[OregonBlue]

49. Amen.

[Blue Ridge Virginia]

50. Bullies and trolls are determined to hijack every discussion of the future...

with endless reprises of their "greatest hits" of the past, bashing Sanders and all his primary voters including the vast majority who voted for Clinton in the general and yet need to be endlessly scapegoated for the sins of those who didn't