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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublicans Furious Trump Caved to Democrats
https://politicalwire.com/2017/09/06/republicans-furious-trump-caved-democrats/"SNIP...........
Jonathan Swan: One top Republican described the move to me as the legislative equivalent of giving an entire stockpile of weapons to Democrats and inviting them to take the entire Republican Party hostage. Republicans are in a state of shock.
Sources inside and close to leadership have used the full range of expletives in text messages reacting to what Trump did this morning.
When the debt ceiling and government funding bills expire in December, Democrats will have all the leverage, because Republicans cant pass a CR or debt ceiling without Democratic votes. That will also force Republicans to support a funding bill that legalizes the protection of illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children (the DACA program that Trump says hell end in six months if Congress doesnt act.)
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Republicans Furious Trump Caved to Democrats (Original Post)
applegrove
Sep 2017
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When does this happen? I truly think once he realizes he was duped he will
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
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spanone
(135,824 posts)1. odds are trump had no idea the hand democrats were holding....he wanted a win.
mcconnell will extract his revenge
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)4. When does this happen? I truly think once he realizes he was duped he will
change his mind but did something official happen?
spanone
(135,824 posts)5. good question...it seems like it may have.
WASHINGTON President Trump struck a deal with Democratic congressional leaders on Wednesday to increase the debt limit and finance the government until mid-December, undercutting his own Republican allies as he reached across the aisle to resolve a major dispute for the first time since taking office.
The agreement would avert a fiscal showdown later this month without the bloody, partisan battle that many had anticipated by combining a debt ceiling increase and stopgap spending measure with relief aid to Texas and other areas devastated by Hurricane Harvey. But without addressing the fundamental underlying issues, it set up the prospect for an even bigger clash at the end of the year.
In embracing the three-month deal, Mr. Trump accepted a Democratic proposal that had been rejected just hours earlier by Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin. Mr. Trumps snap decision at a White House meeting caught Republican leaders off guard and reflected friction between the president and his party. After weeks of criticizing Republican leaders for failing to pass legislation, Mr. Trump signaled that he was willing to cross party lines to score some much-desired legislative victories.
As if to reinforce that point, Mr. Trump aligned himself with Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leaders, in embracing legislation to authorize younger illegal immigrants to stay in the country. A day earlier, Mr. Trump had rescinded a program enacted by President Barack Obama protecting such immigrants on the grounds that it went beyond a presidents authority, but called on Congress to legalize the program.
The agreement would avert a fiscal showdown later this month without the bloody, partisan battle that many had anticipated by combining a debt ceiling increase and stopgap spending measure with relief aid to Texas and other areas devastated by Hurricane Harvey. But without addressing the fundamental underlying issues, it set up the prospect for an even bigger clash at the end of the year.
In embracing the three-month deal, Mr. Trump accepted a Democratic proposal that had been rejected just hours earlier by Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin. Mr. Trumps snap decision at a White House meeting caught Republican leaders off guard and reflected friction between the president and his party. After weeks of criticizing Republican leaders for failing to pass legislation, Mr. Trump signaled that he was willing to cross party lines to score some much-desired legislative victories.
As if to reinforce that point, Mr. Trump aligned himself with Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leaders, in embracing legislation to authorize younger illegal immigrants to stay in the country. A day earlier, Mr. Trump had rescinded a program enacted by President Barack Obama protecting such immigrants on the grounds that it went beyond a presidents authority, but called on Congress to legalize the program.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/house-vote-harvey-aid-debt-ceiling.html?mcubz=0
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)2. WAtch him change his mind.
I want credit for this when he does
mcar
(42,302 posts)3. And people think Pelosi is weak
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)6. Tim Ryan needs to face a primary challenge.
He would cave like Daschle and Gephardt.
Pelosi just ran over him and he does not even realize it.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)7. So can we impeach him now?
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)8. Good maybe now they'll impeach him
no_hypocrisy
(46,083 posts)9. Schumer and Pelosi took advantage of the situation.
No real strategy and maneuvering.
Trump got himself into a jam and they helped him out by making it appear that he supports DACA in principle but he also wants the policy to be grounded in the Constitution. (Not that he cares about the Constitution or democracy. He just wanted a way out.)
And besides, it's almost a congressional tradition to kick the can down the road where it comes to the Debt Limit.
The Republicans are mad that they aren't getting the credit for the same thing.