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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone tried freezing their credit due to the Equifax Debacle? I'm breaking out in a cold sweat
thinking about what further damage will occur if I take action...
janx
(24,128 posts)What does that mean? I have not heard of that term.
diva77
(7,629 posts)What is a credit freeze?
Also known as a security freeze, this tool lets you restrict access to your credit report, which in turn makes it more difficult for identity thieves to open new accounts in your name. Thats because most creditors need to see your credit report before they approve a new account. If they cant see your file, they may not extend the credit.
How do I place a freeze on my credit reports?
Contact each of the nationwide credit reporting companies:
Equifax 1-800-349-9960
Experian 1‑888‑397‑3742
TransUnion 1-888-909-8872
You'll need to supply your name, address, date of birth, Social Security number and other personal information. Fees vary based on where you live, but commonly range from $5 to $10.
After receiving your freeze request, each credit reporting company will send you a confirmation letter containing a unique PIN (personal identification number) or password. Keep the PIN or password in a safe place. You will need it if you choose to lift the freeze.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)and I have been wondering what to do. I'll do that Monday.
I have to say it really makes me angry that it costs money with each of the companies. This should be a free service since this their problem that caused this.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Don't know if the fee is state determined/regulated. I'm in CA and expected to pay, but no charge and it was super easy/quick.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)Where did you go?
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Experian
TransUnion
Equifax
Innovis (never heard of them but what the heck!)
and then to ChexSystems
Googled them + security freeze. One assigned a PIN for unfreezing in the future, another had me set a PIN, another asked if I wanted to set it or have them do it, and Innovis said the security freeze had been added to my credit report and I would be getting a confirmation by mail. Presumably that will include a PIN.
Important not to lose the PINs so I put them in a couple of places!
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and to issue you a new card and number.
I had to do it when my purse was stolen.
By credit card company I mean Visa, Citibank, etc.
You can also tell the 3 credit rating companies, like Equifax or who ever, not to allow any 3rd party to ask for credit score info. unless you approve. Lots of sales companies somehow manage to check your credit score without you knowing it.
yellerpup
(12,252 posts)It's been very effective. One of the benefits is not being propositioned be every credit card company weekly. If you looking for credit to buy a house, car, or trying to take out any kind of loan, you have the option of opening your account for a time period you can limit (1 day, 2 weeks, etc.) and then slam it shut again. No one can open a credit card account or anything else in your name.
diva77
(7,629 posts)order to effect the freeze -- rather ironic...
yellerpup
(12,252 posts)I believe that by the way I was shuffled around by them that most of the work is done offshore. They claimed to have lost info on my freeze and I was shuttled around to workers with accents from all over the world, especially Asia, and they demanded the same information and that I submit it in writing. I never did submit it because I had lost confidence in them as a company. I felt they were shady--turns out, they are.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)I'm surprised I'm not already compromised. The only bureau that's making it difficult to freeze is experian... interesting since they are who I use for credit monitoring.
diva77
(7,629 posts)ecstatic
(32,653 posts)to do with me whatsoever. Then it said that they could not verify my identity online (what a joke! ). So then it asked me to mail to them my social security number, driver's license, a utility bill, basically my entire identity. Funny that they didn't need all that to start credit monitoring, yet when I'm trying to freeze my credit, they can't verify my identity?! WTF?
Called the number, it was automated. So I did their online upload, which was still way too invasive but I was determined to start the freeze process. If you know of a number where a human answers, please share it.
diva77
(7,629 posts)and at $10 per credit freeze for 3 agencies for 143 million people that adds up to:
30 x 143,000,000 = $4.3 Billion not bad for a "data breach" !!
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)is charging after their f*ck up! Unreal. You're right, Congress does need to act. They sat on this info for 2 months, and according to this guy:
Link to tweet
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)wishstar
(5,268 posts)Their website said my info was probably hacked but they are overwhelmed and not able to process freeze requests for most people, but instead are requesting people to re-enter their website at a designated later date, in my case the 13th.
I also went into Experian to try and freeze my credit with them, but their website wouldn't take action either and required I send a request by snail mail instead.
diva77
(7,629 posts)the Equifax breach???)
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)wishstar
(5,268 posts)re-entering on Equifax in order to get the 1 free year of credit monitoring (their premier service) they are offering customers - but my credit reports all looked fine and freezes are in place
Liberal In Texas
(13,532 posts)Can't do it online.
Good luck. My wife spent the morning researching this and drafting letters to freeze our credit to 4 different agencies. I mailed them today. We're not taking chances.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)total. Each indicated the freeze was put in place. Very quick and easy.
Pinkflamingo
(177 posts)They took an upgrade, put $100 down on a iPhone 7+ at Best Buy. When the new SIM card was installed, our phone then had "no service"
What a mess.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Certain info can allow people to gain access to your checking/savings accounts. I have 2 step verification for all the accounts that allow it, but a couple of my accounts have very old school technology. Monday I'm going to call and ask what they have in place to stop my accounts from being drained (in light of these hacks).
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)I've been a victim no less than 3 times of "security breaches" that have left my personal info out there for public consumption in one form or another.
Never have I had someone open any kind of account in my name, nor do I know of anyone who has. That's not to say it doesn't happen to some people as I'm sure it does. The fact that it does happen from time to time more commonly today means that in the off chance it does happen to you, it will be easier to correct than in times past when such things rarely happened to anyone.
The reality we live in is that your personal information was probably already out there anyway. The best defense is simply to check your credit report periodically and look for discrepancies.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)When you get to be as old as we are, no mortgage, all the credit cards you will ever need, and no plans for a car loan, you can fuck it all. Fifty years from now when we have been dead and gone for a long time, there will be at least 100 people using our socials for something.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:17 AM - Edit history (1)
We froze accounts at all of the credit reporting companies and put a security alert on Chexsystems which will nmake it harder for somebody to use your SSN to open a bank account in your name. You can always temporarily lift the freeze if you're taking out a new loan or something.
In short, if you have already been victimized by identity theft (fraud involving existing credit or debit cards is not identity theft), it might be worth paying for these credit monitoring and repair services (although more than likely, you are already eligible for free coverage thanks to a recent breach at any one of dozens of companies that have lost your information over the past year). Otherwise, Id strongly advise you to consider freezing your credit file at the major credit bureaus.
There is shockingly little public knowledge or education about the benefits of a security freeze, also known as a credit freeze. I routinely do public speaking engagements in front of bankers and other experts in the financial industry, and Im amazed at how often I hear from people in this community who are puzzled to learn that there is even such a thing as a security freeze (to be fair, most of these people are in the business of opening new lines of credit, not blocking such activity).
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/06/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-embrace-the-security-freeze/
Article contains all the links to the different companies.
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)on the website today and Equifax stated that my information had been breached. I then entered hub's info...same thing. THEN I entered a false last name and false SSN # and guess what? Seems Equifax states that info was also compromised. I did it several more times and got the same result. I wonder if all of this is a ruse.
renate
(13,776 posts)Thank you for doing that experiment and sharing the results with us. It hadn't occurred to me at all.
lindysalsagal
(20,581 posts)Over the phone with a code. I refuse to type my SS into any keyboard, and I don't have online access to my checkingsavings. Go to www.clarkhoward.com for step by step instructions, but verify the updated snail addresses and do it certified registered mail. Peace of mind.
I also went to a regional credit union. Get out of the national mega banks. People used to say I'm paranoid. I say, yep. I am. And I'm better off for it. If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.
marybourg
(12,586 posts)which require me to pay each of the 3 credit reporting agencies, and to pay them again every time I decide to open up a new card or Money Market account. One of the companies I'd be paying is the very company which gave up my data in the first place.
Nor am I signing up for their "protection plan" by giving them (or whomever is operating that site) my personal data again, and also agreeing to give up the right to be part of an eventual class action. Extortion scheme anyone?
Freezing your credit may prevent others from opening credit cards in your name, but that's not the biggest threat from this breach, in my opinion. I think the biggest threat is that someone now knows all the information your financial institutions know about you and use to identify you when you contact them by phone or on line. Even that list of previous addresses we have to identify in critical transactions. Someone who buys this information can become "you" to your financial institutions which are holding your money. This is the scary thing to me.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)They know me and I know them. They know to never take a call from me on the phone or any other customer for that matter. You don't go in, you don't talk to anyone.
marybourg
(12,586 posts)and a mutual fund company, an annuity, a money market account in a different bank, and don't forget a "small town" bank may be part of a larger corporate structure where a fraudster can call a corporate number or use a corporate website impersonating you and by-passing your friendly banker who knows you, altogether.
They can think of sneaky dodges that we can't; they're crooks.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)It is locally owned. We use Ameriprise for all of our money markets and annuities and have for 35 years. We also have a code to use when we talk to our broker on the phone. That information is not available anywhere.
marybourg
(12,586 posts)and have nothing to worry about.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)By the time the thief lives in it for a while then decides not to pay for it, we will be dead and gone.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)And I'm going to pay them for the privilege? Even if by some chance someone stole my identity, if they try to get a home loan or a car loan, I think living on social security will stop that. They can't get to my 401K and they can't get to my bank account. My credit card company will notify me if a charge looks suspicious.
Liberal In Texas
(13,532 posts)I wasn't compromised but my wife was.
We are freezing our credit which is no small task. Sent them certified mail etc.
You have to send them to all the 4 different services. One each, so a total of 8 letters.
hatrack
(59,578 posts)It's an auto-response system, and yes, I did have to freaking pay.
Kossack DocDawg has two really good threads running on the topic and they're worth reading:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/8/1697105/-Equifax-just-broke-the-US-consumer-finance-industry-AND-the-internet-Here-s-what-YOU-need-to-do-now
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/9/1697262/-Equifax-security-is-STILL-criminally-negligent-How-I-discovered-that-and-why-you-should-care