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Abu Pepe

(637 posts)
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:18 PM Sep 2017

Liberal Celebrities Who Helped Elect Trump, Kindly STFU About DACA


Dear Famous Liberals Who Refused To Vote For Hillary Clinton,

It’s time to call bullshit on your so-called social-political revolution — one that only a person of extreme privilege has the luxury to champion. Susan Sarandon, let’s start with you. I know you were “so excited and encouraged by the idea that maybe if everything is falling apart so obviously,” we would come together as a people. But spare me your sympathies now that Judgment Day has come.

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Liberal Celebrities Who Helped Elect Trump, Kindly STFU About DACA (Original Post) Abu Pepe Sep 2017 OP
1000% Sarandon needs to do an apology like no other Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #1
Apology will never be enough n/t radical noodle Sep 2017 #8
Sarandon is beneath contempt. TomSlick Sep 2017 #2
She's extremely stubborn. liberalnarb Sep 2017 #10
With due respect, those are not liberals. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #3
I will allow that they're not my kind of liberal but TomSlick Sep 2017 #4
This former political science would suggest that "left-wing populist" would be.... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #12
I can live with that. TomSlick Sep 2017 #17
That's the thing about populism... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #18
I'll buy that. TomSlick Sep 2017 #19
It is a political tendency that claims "only some people are really people." Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #23
I'm honestly more disappointed in Rosario Dawson. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #5
Colin Kaepernick FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #6
Fuck him JI7 Sep 2017 #7
Wow what a f**kin idiot! workinclasszero Sep 2017 #14
Keith Olbermann bathroommonkey76 Sep 2017 #20
Why? liberalnarb Sep 2017 #9
Crocodile tears don't cu it. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #13
Fuck rehabilitating themselves, liberalnarb Sep 2017 #16
Famous liberal celebrity who always stayed home and didn't vote? George Carlin. MerryBlooms Sep 2017 #11
These rich f**ks like to play holier than thou workinclasszero Sep 2017 #15
People should not protest injustice? Bad Thoughts Sep 2017 #21
Sarandon and Cornel West share a weird privilege Nevernose Sep 2017 #22

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. 1000% Sarandon needs to do an apology like no other
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:29 PM
Sep 2017

in history and mean it before I could ever consider forgiving her.

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
2. Sarandon is beneath contempt.
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:11 PM
Sep 2017

If she had two brain cells to rub together, she would publically admit how foolish she was.

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
4. I will allow that they're not my kind of liberal but
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:22 PM
Sep 2017

as a long-ago political science major, I like to put labels to political positions. So, what label do you propose. I can think of a few but none could be used in a political science text.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
12. This former political science would suggest that "left-wing populist" would be....
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:04 AM
Sep 2017

the most appropriate term that one could use in polite conversation.

Sarandon (et al) have an anti-liberal ideology, so calling her a liberal is inaccurate in political science terms and tarnishes our brand in the real world.

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
17. I can live with that.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:01 PM
Sep 2017

However, I question whether either the left or right wing versions are really populist. They both seem rather elitist.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
18. That's the thing about populism...
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:06 PM
Sep 2017

it's always a charade by elitists who claim to represent "the will of the people" (even when it is clear that they do not) and then they turn authoritarian when/if they grab power.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
23. It is a political tendency that claims "only some people are really people."
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 01:01 AM
Apr 2023

Some form "the volk" or the people, as the Evil One claimed in Nazi Germany and everyone else is "the other," such as Jews, Communists, Roma, Slaves, and the mentally or physically disabled.

The "other" are subhuman, the root of all of society's evils, and they deserve to be subjugated and/or killed.

Trump's playbook (and Greene's) isn't so different. They target Mexicans, trans people, African Americans and others as their scapegoats, but the basics are the same.

Dangerous stuff.

Bleacher Creature

(11,254 posts)
5. I'm honestly more disappointed in Rosario Dawson.
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:36 PM
Sep 2017

Sarandon has always come across as more of a poser, and this isn't her first ride on the purity train.

Dawson has always seemed much more grounded and earnest. I'm watching all of the Marvel shows on Netflix now and she's great in them.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
6. Colin Kaepernick
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:41 PM
Sep 2017

Who not only refused to vote against Trump but encouraged others not to vote either.

"In the run-up to the 2016 election, Kaepernick repeatedly made it clear he didn't approve of either President-elect Donald Trump or Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. On Election Day, Kaepernick said he would not be voting and followed through on that promise.

Kaepernick said it "didn't matter" who won the election because neither candidate was a good choice."


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Wow what a f**kin idiot!
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:09 AM
Sep 2017

I had no idea Kaepernick said such a stupid thing!

Shit I was very supportive of him up until I just read that.

He can FO now as far as I'm concerned!

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
9. Why?
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 10:11 PM
Sep 2017

I share your frustration towards people who refused to vote for Hillary out of privilege, but if they're opposing the trump administration's heartless attack on DACA why shouldn't they speak? We need as much opposition to these nazis as we can get.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
13. Crocodile tears don't cu it.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:07 AM
Sep 2017

These folks enabled the election of Donald Trump and now want to rehabilitate themselves?

Fuck 'em.

They are not allies. Never. No way!

MerryBlooms

(11,759 posts)
11. Famous liberal celebrity who always stayed home and didn't vote? George Carlin.
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 10:32 PM
Sep 2017

I say FUCK OFF, to him and all those I see on political sites who post his bullshit encouraging others not to vote. FUCK HIM and all those who CHOOSE to stay home every election. I know he's a big hero in some circles, but not mine.






 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. These rich f**ks like to play holier than thou
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:12 AM
Sep 2017

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They don't give a damn, they have mountains of cash that will protect them no matter who is in charge of the government.

Money changes everything with very few exceptions.

Bad Thoughts

(2,514 posts)
21. People should not protest injustice?
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:45 PM
Sep 2017

This is a preposterous position. Everyone should protest every curtailment of rights, even if they voted for Trump himself.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
22. Sarandon and Cornel West share a weird privilege
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:54 PM
Sep 2017

A privilege we don't usually associate with women or black men. They've got a protective aura (or a filter that only allows dumbness in or out) that means Trump probably won't fuck them over. Money, fame, public platform, whatever.

But if you couldn't figure out that Trump would be a total fucking nightmare on so many levels, for so many vulnerable people, then fuck you. Fuck you, fuck the horse you rode in on, and then fuck you again.

I'm not a big fan of Hillary's foreign policy or tendency towards neoliberal economic solutions for social issues. So fucking what? I think she's petty and entitled, but you know what's even MORE petty and entitled? Deporting a bunch of kids because their parents committed crimes, or unilaterally revoking consent decrees with local police, or blabbing the top secret intelligence of multiple nations to the Russians because you want to impress them, or gutting perfectly sensible environmental regulations because the guy who enacted them made a joke at your expense five fucking years ago, or a thousand other things.

So if you not only didn't vote for Clinton, but actively encouraged others not to vote for Clinton? Then fuck you.

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