Anyone else a bit queasy about leadership working with tRump??

[SHRED]

I like how the RW is having a meltdown and I hope The Dream Act becomes law but something about working with him alarms me.
Maybe because most everyone who does regrets it?
I don't trust him at all.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. The idiot cares about ratings and the perception of who adores him, that and

money.

I said all along if Gates/Soros and other billionaires on the left gave him enough money, he would be a liberal champion, until the money ran out.

[GeorgeGist]

2. Well yeah ...

what part of con-artist do they not understand.

[ksoze]

3. They are working him, not working with him

A subtle but important difference in a long term strategy play.

[True_Blue]

10. Chuck & Nancy are playing him like a fiddle.

I love it!

[fleur-de-lisa]

4. Pelosi and Schumer are pretty smart.

I think they're just playing him for whatever they can get, while taking advantage of the fact that there is a divide amongst the pukes. I don't beleive they will sell us out.

What's the worst that could happen? Chump looks like a fool, his base gets pissed, then he backtracks. It was worth a shot.

Ultimately, this just weakens the dipshit and divides the repukes. I'm cool with that. Being in the minority, what else can Dems do?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. I'm sure they know exactly what they're dealing with.

Chuck and Nancy have been playing Trump like a Stradivarius - in fact, like a whole orchestra. They've been playing Beethoven's Ninth on his ass. They aren't working with him; they're just working him.

[MLAA]

12. Beethoven's ninth on his ass....love it!

[Kleveland]

6. U-Betcha!

Some say that Pelosi and Schumer are very smart, and are playing him.

I laughed.

I have no confidence in any sort of normal behavior, or expectations that *Rump is really doing anything predictable, rational, or good for the country in the long run.

Chaos is the only constant here.

He is a grifter, con-artist nut-job and dangerous to Democracy.

[Old Vet]

19. You just go on laughing, Chuck and Nancy been in the trenches a long time fighting for DEMOCRATIC ..

VALUES. I have high confidence Chuck and Nancy will get a bill approved with democratic support to help our dreamer friends. There gonna give trump some money for border security so he gets something, BUT no fucking wall.

[Kleveland]

21. Laughing at Trump dude, laughing at Trump.

No more, no less.

[Old Vet]

25. I knew that, No more, No less...

Point was I think we dems should keep enough faith that our two highest ranking leaders wont get screwed over by 45.........

[Kleveland]

30. Agreed, and my thankful respects!

I am trying hard not to lose faith in our Democracy, and those who have the heart and mind to understand, respect and defend it.

Peace.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

7. Ya think?!

[louis c]

8. Not me

we all wanted to see Trump's base erode. Trump's remaining base (about 30%) are bigots. Trump used them to gain the nomination and then combined luck, Russian meddling and Comey's asinine letter on Oct 28th into a narrow electoral college victory.

The only way Trump can lose his base is by betraying them and not act like a bigot. They voted for him because he portrayed a bigot. If he was "making believe" in order to get elected, we'll never forgive him. If he was "making believe" to fool the bigots in America, and they find out, they'll never forgive them.

In either case, Trump is shit out of luck.

[leftstreet]

9. He'd be dangerous if he understood anything

He seems to be the least informed and most incurious POTUS in history

If loons like Bannon and Breitbarters can manipulate him, imagine how well intelligent, experienced politicians can do it

[Proud Liberal Dem]

11. Not really

As long as whatever concessions they are offering Trump (if any?) are not extreme or unreasonable. So far, I haven't heard of them promising Trump anything regressive or anything we might regret.

[kacekwl]

13. Get everything on tape and in writing.

With plenty of witnesses.

[Golden Raisin]

14. Yup!

He is completely untrustworthy. Pelosi and Schumer are continuing to play the "normalization" game, playing by traditional rules while this entire Regime is completely and totally abnormal, rogue and revolutionary. They are laying down with dogs and will wake up with fleas.

[MFM008]

15. Yes

Perhaps it's part of some strategy we don't know yet but yes.

[JustAnotherGen]

16. Nope

I think he’s being played for the fool that he is. End of the day - we don’t have the numbers. They can strike any deal they want to with him – but the Republicans won’t go along to get along.

I think they are shifting the narrative – it gives them the chance to say “we don’t have the numbers”. Let’s shut down that ‘obstructionist’ nonsense being spouted on the right.

You can’t obstruct if you don’t have the numbers.

[Phoenix61]

17. Not at all

As long as they get what they want before he gets what he wants. He'd welch on a deal in a second but I'm sure they are well aware of that. It also keeps them from being labeled obstructionist.

[Oneironaut]

18. Not really. I would rather have us get something out of Trump than be passive observers.

If we can force his hand into favorable policies, then I'm all for it. I don't like Trump, but I think that disengaging with him entirely would be a terrible mistake on our part.

[GulfCoast66]

20. Nope

The republicans do not have the votes for anything major as their are so many splits in the party. The debt deal proved that and it als gave Trump his first win as he perceives it-because of democrats votes. He has no core values. So if he works with the plurality of republicans who favor the dream act along with the Democratic Party he can have another win. The fact that it is stabbing his most loyal followers in the back means nothing to him. They could not give him a win, embarrassed him so he will abandon them in a second.

[bluepen]

24. +1. Great analysis. Trump believes in NOTHING except

"winning" and self-promotion. That's it.

[yardwork]

22. No. This is how politics works.

[beaglelover]

23. Nope, I'm fine with it. I trust them to not agree to anything that would be harmful.

[handmade34]

26. the biggest

concern I have is that the Trump Administration is being normalized... other than that, Pelosi and Schumer are doing what they have to do and I trust them

[Zambero]

27. Here's the queasy part

Trump having absolutely no political grounding or knowledge of how government works will demonstrate flexibility from time to time when it suits him. His motivation stems from how "great" he can make himself look, and absent legislative "wins", he's coming to the realization that the GOP leadership has not been not delivering much. Pence is a different animal altogether, being a rigid ideologue who could be expected to tow the reactionary (no-compromise hard line conservatism) party line with consistency. If Trump is forced out or quits, we get Pence. Would that be taking us from very bad to much worse? I'm starting to think so.

[emulatorloo]

28. No. I trust Schumer and Pelosi. They are both smart and great strategizers

[Bettie]

29. It makes me think that when

the leadership turns over in the midterms, the first statement will be "Impeachment is off the table", because he's worked "with" them.

I don't want to see that.

[spanone]

31. i think they're 'working him' more than working with him.

he just wants adulation, not real results.