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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:12 PM Sep 2017

The people who lied on their security clearance will be charged with a felony.

When you go for a top secret clearance everything is clearly explained to you. They give you options. One of the options is to go talk to a lawyer. Forgetting something is not excepted as a defense. So far that has been their defense.

If I forgot was allowed as a defense whats the point of having security clearances. Everyone could just say I forgot. They must and will be charged to maintain the process and the rule of law.

The same thing goes for perjury. People will be charged.

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The people who lied on their security clearance will be charged with a felony. (Original Post) shockey80 Sep 2017 OP
I hope so. Almost every piece of paper I worked with in Vietnam was at least SECRET Glorfindel Sep 2017 #1
I have no doubt they will be charged. shockey80 Sep 2017 #2
"Rule of Law" in the U.S.A. is becoming more questionable Golden Raisin Sep 2017 #3
Oh I hope you are correct. MontanaMama Sep 2017 #4
Jared doesn't seem cut out for prison. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #5
There are many laws, most of which are enforced only sporadically. MineralMan Sep 2017 #6
Jared will make a model prisoner. shockey80 Sep 2017 #7
LOL SHRED Sep 2017 #8

Glorfindel

(9,720 posts)
1. I hope so. Almost every piece of paper I worked with in Vietnam was at least SECRET
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:19 PM
Sep 2017

and lots of it was TOP SECRET/COMSEC/NOFORN, etc. I would have expected to be shot if I had lied to obtain the clearance or released any of it to outside agencies as Chelsea Manning did.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
2. I have no doubt they will be charged.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:26 PM
Sep 2017

I am still trying to figure out if they can be charged on multiple counts and do all the lies count as just one charge.

Golden Raisin

(4,605 posts)
3. "Rule of Law" in the U.S.A. is becoming more questionable
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
Sep 2017

and tenuous every day. It's being rapidly attacked, eroded and eaten way, as if by malignant cancer, under the current regime. There are plenty of glaring examples. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's pardon just to name one.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
4. Oh I hope you are correct.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
Sep 2017

While they should be charged, I am skeptical that they will be in the end. There are so many of them that "forgot" things they should have included on their security clearance paperwork. I fear that there are so many instances of this lying that the courts will be full for many years to come. However, if they are allowed to get away with it, we are truly doomed as a country.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
6. There are many laws, most of which are enforced only sporadically.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 01:02 PM
Sep 2017

If you look at the actual language of security clearance forms, you will see the words "may," as in "you may be charged with a felony."

The reality is that few such charges are ever brought for omissions on a security clearance form. It's highly unlikely that most people in high government positions will be charged for such a thing.

People "may" be charged with may crimes, but few are actually charged.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
7. Jared will make a model prisoner.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 01:04 PM
Sep 2017

He may have other charges brought against him besides lying on security clearance.

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