#ImStillWithHer : This Twitter thread explains the Hillary thing.

[TygrBright]

For anyone who still has the slightest doubt.

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So. There ya go. @MrsSheaWong has neatly described how she, and I and, I believe (based on the number of RTs and Likes) a WHOLE LOTTA women are looking at the events of the last 12 months-plus.

And how that is likely to inform our actions and choices in upcoming elections.

By the way-- Did you know there are more women than men?

In America.

In the Democratic Party.

So.

Think about it, Democratic Party leadership.

Think REAL HARD.

encouragingly,
Bright

[sagesnow]

1. Brava!!

Shea Wong @MrsSheaWong
They KNOW we make the most phone calls, the majority of canvassing. They KNOW they need us. We are the base that gets shit done. 29/

For real.

[ismnotwasm]

2. Yeah she nailed it

I try to stay out of contentious threads here, more or less, but I will always be angry about how Hillary was treated. This last book "criticism" was just pathetic.

[smirkymonkey]

3. Hear, hear!

[FakeNoose]

4. Both the Democratic and Republican Parties have their share of mysogynists

There, I summarized it for you.

[TygrBright]

5. How nice of you to prove the premise of the thread!

Facile, "dismiss while seeming to agree" treatment of complex, emotion-laden discussions that are of profound significance to a particular group is one of the root issues of @MrsSheaWong's tweets.

appreciatively,
Bright

[R B Garr]

9. +++++++

[FM123]

28. 👍👍👍

[yardwork]

8. Thanks for explaining that for us.

[SunSeeker]

30. LOL

[SunSeeker]

32. No, you totally missed the point. But nice try at the old "both parties are the same" bull.

There are more misogynists among Republicans. It is not even close. And exactly how many misogynists equates to one's "share"?

If you had actually read the tweets, you would realize this thread was about the horrific double standard and hate spewed upon our first major party female presidential candidate, as more recently demonstrated by how even some who claim to be progressive lost their shit over Hillary's new book. We, the women, the base of the Democratic Party, have had it with this bullshit. We will not hold our tongue any more, we will not quietly toil for campaigns while others mansplain what we should do. Nope. We have no more fucks to give. We are with HER.

There, I summarized it for you.

[ATL Ebony]

56. Nice summary.

[Eliot Rosewater]

70. You should NOT have to say that here, NO poster on this site should be saying something

that requires this response.

What you said here is "duh" and should only need to be said to rightwingers.

What the fuck is WRONG with people?

(to be clear, I am very angry at someone and it isnt you)

[ehrnst]

59. +1000 (nt)

[brer cat]

6. Thank you!

Outstanding post that sums up well how many of us feel. Those who abused us are among the ones crying loudest for "unity" now, only their idea of unity seems to be "do as I say and we will get along just fine." Not this woman! #ImStillWithHer.

[yardwork]

7. Wow! That is EXACTLY how I feel!

[R B Garr]

10. Love it!! I was going to quote a favorite line,

but on second thought, they are all too good to pick just one.

Excellent.

[Arazi]

11. This a good but I have a small quibble

"And if anyone tells you to stay quiet for unity, you remind them that true unity does not require silence. They are describing control"...

Does this mean Bernie Sanders, a member of the Democratic leadership, gets to similarly speak his mind because "true unity does not require silence"?

I'd further stipulate that Senator Sanders' has similarly been galvanizing people to run for office for a very long time now. I'm sure "progbros" (wtf?) would be the first to encourage anyone to get in the fight

[Ninsianna]

15. Who is telling him to be quiet?

Only ones doing that are the ones shutting up everyone who dares to speak at all. When anyone says offensive, objectionable things, they can also listen to the replies.

I think you're missing the evidence that these people are not encouraging anyone to get into the fight but are actively working to attack them.

[Control-Z]

17. You just had to drop that turd,

didn't you?

[riderinthestorm]

41. It's the crux of the matter. nt

[grantcart]

64. yep

[WinkyDink]

21. Oh, have men tried to silence Sanders? I hadn't noticed.

[Me.]

37. If He's Going To Continue To Crtitcize Democrats

He can speak but the audience listening has and will seriously continue to diminish.

[ehrnst]

61. Yep. (nt)

[Progressive dog]

47. Bernie has never stopped speaking his mind

and I don't expect he ever will.

[ehrnst]

60. Since when has anything stopped Bernie from speaking his mind?

Critiquing Sanders isn't silencing him. And certainly he doesn't get the "SHUT UP AND GO AWAY" treatment that HRC does.

And she is an actual Democrat, and won both the primary and the GE votes.

[Me.]

63. There's Always An End To Any Run

I'm betting his comes somewhere in 2018. Had a lot of luck and dubious help but as I say, luck runs out.

[mercuryblues]

12. Think about it, Democratic Party leadership.

And if anyone tells you to stay quiet for unity, you remind them that true unity does not require silence. They are describing control.


YES. Women's rights are NOT identity politics.

[melman]

13. 'progbros'

[Ninsianna]

16. 29 tweets and this is what you pulled from them all? okay then.

[SunSeeker]

23. Yep. Kinda proves Shea Wong's point. nt

[Ninsianna]

46. Much of the responses to any criticism seem to prove it correct.

[melman]

65. No

There's a whole lot more.

[kcr]

55. Awwww n/t

[melman]

66. Pointing out the ridiculousness

Doesn't mean I'm personally offended.

[mercuryblues]

69. Pin pointing examples of

misogyny=ridiculousness.

got it. So glad it was explained to me in a way that even I can understand.

[Ninsianna]

71. If it weren't for mansplainers, how would we ever know anything?

[Ninsianna]

14. So much all of this!

[mcar]

18. We are the Democratic base

Women, AA, POC. I'm still with her.

[Me.]

38. I'm Still With Her

and Nancy Pelosi

[mcar]

39. And Nancy!

The best Speaker and minority leader in recent history.

And Kamala. And Kirsten. And Elizabeth. And Tammy. And Maisie.

[Me.]

40. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[SunSeeker]

19. "...having to fight misinformation and straight up lies from those we thought were 'allies.'"

We watched her mocked for taking a goddamn walk in the woods while the loser of the primary went on a book tour 2 WEEKS AFTER ELECTION. 

And then we watched her write a book and unleash another torrent of concern troll abuse in the form of calls for "unity".

You see, Bernie going on a book tour was "therapy". But magically, her book just "isn't the right time/will tear Dems apart/etc

People question her motives, but didn't say boo when 2x Pres loser Mitt Romney made a GD documentary and took it to Sundance. SUNDANCE.

THIS

[JHan]

42. a daily fricken occurrence even now

and every time someone says bernie was robbed, someone in the kremlin is laughing their ass off.

[SunSeeker]

43. Yep. nt

[nolabear]

22. Incredibly powerful. Thank you. #StillWithHer

[BainsBane]

24. I will never forget

Or forgive the unequal treatment that exposed the values and souls of those who engaged in it. I came to learn that the singular goal of far too many is to maintain the established social order--(and even restore it to the early to mid-20th century) with white men, who despite having more than most Americans and 99.97% of planet earth claim they are exploited because they don't hold all power and wealth.

[sharedvalues]

25. Yes but she underrates conservative propaganda

Judicial Watch is an organization whose purpose is to smear Hillary.

They spent HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in the last decade.

Is there a half-billion organization that exists to smear Bernie and his book?

Conservative media and propaganda are a big reason people hate Hillary. The russians didn't help either.

[Skidmore]

26. Thank you.

In all of these decades from the time I first became politically aware , never did I think we would be right back where we all began with the help of erstwhile "allies." Shea is right. I have no fucks left to give. I won't leave people behind so that a few can feel superior or take it all. We rise together.

[nocoincidences]

27. This is the energy

I expected to see when I joined this site!

Women are absolutely not going to shut up or go away or get kicked to the curb, anymore.

Rise.

[JHan]

29. every tweet resonates with me, it's as if she is speaking for me here..

Thank you for this TygrBright!

[Madam45for2923]

31. Am still reading. Thanks for posting!

Your post:

#ImStillWithHer : This Twitter thread explains the Hillary thing.

For anyone who still has the slightest doubt.

Link to tweet

So. There ya go. @MrsSheaWong has neatly described how she, and I and, I believe (based on the number of RTs and Likes) a WHOLE LOTTA women are looking at the events of the last 12 months-plus.

And how that is likely to inform our actions and choices in upcoming elections.

By the way-- Did you know there are more women than men?

In America.

In the Democratic Party.

So.

Think about it, Democratic Party leadership.

Think REAL HARD.

encouragingly,

Bright

[Hamlette]

33. I don't place as much blame on the DNC as the author does

I'm almost afraid to say it but DWS was a victim of sexism as well.

Ta-Nehisi Coats wrote an article last week saying it was all about racism and not about economic conditions. I agree with him but, it is impossible not to see the sexism. Especially over her FFFFFing BOOK. Really, the media still do not get it? When they trashed her for her book, like the author in the OP, it was like someone grabbed me by the shoulders and screamed "wake up!". Women and POC are f---ed in the US and we're pissed.

[TygrBright]

34. Yes. It remains the biggest fault line. They exploit it every time.

As a woman, I'm painfully aware that while all men are shaped by the privilege of their gender, some men of color have seized on that privilege as compensation for the disempowerment they suffer based on race.

And as an Anglo woman, I know damn' well I have to fight the same phenomenon in reverse, not to mention the fear-mongering that goes with feelings of vulnerability added to the intrinsic racism of white privilege.

Until we ALL can address BOTH racism AND misogyny, simultaneously, we'll leave that fault line exposed to the money and power of the white patriarchy.

wearily,
Bright

[lapucelle]

35. She was "flawed".

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She needs to take full responsibility and apologize.

And she'll have to keep doing it because she will never do it right.

[betsuni]

36. I LOVE THIS

[sheshe2]

44. I stand with her and all women.

Thank you Tygr Bright.

[Scurrilous]

45. K&R

[UtahLib]

48. A very energizing read. I agree, completely!

[Lucinda]

49. knr

[radical noodle]

50. A thousand times YES!

Love this!

[MLAA]

51. Wow, just wow. I am with her (Hillary) and her (Ms Wong) and thx TygrBright for sharing

[The Polack MSgt]

52. K&R

So much brilliance. Damn

[boston bean]

53. Even here women have to suck it up and shut up about wrongs done.

Could you imagine if this website, founded upon a stolen election, made it so Gore supporters couldn't speak of the wrongs done to him after his election??

Yet Hillary supporters have to shut their mouths and not rock the boat. Are told to move on from it all. Are lambasted as being divosive for speaking truths of a fucking stolen election from start to finish. Yet the persons who screamed rigged election on both sides for two fucking years straight won't let the woman and her supporters who had it stolen from them speak about all the fucking dirty wrong shit done.

It is really unbelievable and if some people self reflected they might see the unfairness and plain old fucking sexist acts for what they are. But nope.

It truly is disgusting.

[oasis]

54. 100% that.

[redgreenandblue]

57. "Everyone except me is racist and sexist!!!111"

The OP is a good example of why the election was lost. A very special brand of pathological, toxic, negativity that turns off most of America.

Keep those primary wars going. That is really going to help in 2018.

[JHan]

72. Intriguing, pointing out racism and sexism is now "alienating" people.

Talking about the "pathological, toxic, negativity" that afflicts america ( there I fixed it for you) Is now "pathological, toxic and negative".

This game is known and many women are sick and tired of playing by its rules, okay?

[ehrnst]

58. HRC speaks for and to a majority of the Democratic party, as we saw in the Primaries. (nt)

[Gothmog]

62. Great thread

[BlancheSplanchnik]

67. Well, finally the misogyny embedded in our culture is becoming visible.

Gonna be ugly, but draining abscesses always are.

[iluvtennis]

68. Excellent -thanks for posting this.