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nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:37 PM Sep 2017

December 12, 2017 AL US Senate Election is going to decide whether Democrats regain control of

the US Senate in 2018.
Scenario 1- Jones-D wins the December 12 2017 AL US Senate Election against Moore-R or Strange-R. Democrats hold onto FL(Nelson-D vs Scott-R),IN,MO,MT,ND (Heitkamp-D vs Cramer-R),OH,PA,and WV and pick up AZ (Sinema/Stanton-D) and NV (Rosen-D).

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nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
4. I respectfully disagree-look at the 2010 MA US Senate Special Election.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:16 PM
Sep 2017

Before Coakley-D and Brown-R won their party's nomination in December 2009, Coakley-D was leading Brown-R in the public opinion polls by 26 to 31 percent margin. It was in January 2010 when Brown-R started and continued to lead Coakley-D in public opinion polls. Brown-R defeated Coakley-D in the January 19, 2010 general election.
Going back to 2017 AL US Senate Special Election. The loser in the September 26 2017 Republican primary runoff is not going to enthusiastically support the winner during the general election campaign. Strange-R or Moore-R can run as a write in Independent candidate in the December 12, 2017 General Election.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
5. That's massachsettes and coakley lost because she did not campaign
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:23 PM
Sep 2017

And scott Brown campsigned as a moderate.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
8. FYI-Doug Jones is not going to campaign as a progressive.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:38 PM
Sep 2017

Luther Strange-R or Roy Moore-R can expect a coronation like Coakley-D did in Massachusetts.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
10. I hope the democrat wins but i disagree that a loss in alabama is a sign of anything
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:42 PM
Sep 2017

Other than how they are expected to vote as a very ted state.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
2. I know there is a poll showing Jones close,
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:46 PM
Sep 2017

but the Dems could nominate Jebus himself and they wouldn't vote for him. He would say "feed the poor and heal the sick" Republicans would attack him as a socialist.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
3. Agree
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:06 PM
Sep 2017

I remember when Democratic senators were as racist as Republicans are today, but at least they brought home the bacon
I and many students from all the other states got good National Education Loans because of a bill sponsored by Senator Lister Hill of Alabama

Trumpdumper

(171 posts)
15. Lister Hill
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 09:28 PM
Sep 2017

Hill was viewed as a liberal, at least in nonracial terms. Not the worst guy the South ever produced -- look at the irredeemable Eastland in Mississippi. Even George Wallace was more progressive on race until he learned that he couldn't win without appealing to the knuckle-draggers.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
7. Not going to happen.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:28 PM
Sep 2017

As much as it makes me sick, that aging christonut is going to become a senator and the dignity of our government will take yet another hit.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
9. I wish I had such rose-tinted glasses
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:38 PM
Sep 2017

But thinking we get to hold our Senate seats in Indiana, Missouri, Montana and North Dakota while picking up both Arizona and Nevada is a best case scenario that is better hoped for than betting on. Hoping we elect a Senator from Alabama puts one in the same category of optimist as Vladimir and Estragon.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
11. Winning AL in December 2017 makes it easier for Democrats to win in AZ,IN,MO,MT,NV,and ND in 2018.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:59 PM
Sep 2017

If we don't win in AL which is the likely outcome, we have to work hard to hold onto IN,MO,MT,ND,OH,and WV and pick up AZ and NV. We have to hope for 2 AZ US Senate Races to take place in 2018(The Flake seat and The McCain seat) to regain control of the US Senate in 2018 or McMullin-UT running as an Independent and Jim Bennett running for the US Senate as the United Utah party nominee-splitting the Republican vote allowing the Democratic nominee to narrowly win or Cruz-TX making a Macaca gaffe.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
14. We won't win Texas Or Utah even if there is a third party candidate.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 09:23 PM
Sep 2017

There was a strong third party candidate in 2016.

We will likely loose Missouri and Indiana. I would put North Dakota there was well.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
12. I learned my lesson
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 09:06 PM
Sep 2017

analyzing McCaskill's chances as non-existent based soley upon what I still believe will be poor turnout in AA communities when someone pointed out that she is still in a statistical tie with the best GOP prospect, so I don't want to get caught playing the know it all. Heitkamp might have a wall in front of her but I do think there is a reason for hope based on Trump's hollow energy promises. The Bakken Shale is drying up and so are jobs. By the time the pipeline starts hiring on any scale there will be a bunch of angry oil field workers and that won't be good for Trump.

Regardless, we have to fight regardless of whether it's Alabama, Missouri, or South Dakota.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. I think we have a better shot at the House than the Senate.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 09:30 PM
Sep 2017

The Repubs are going to pick up North Dakota. I think they might also get Indiana and / or Michigan (only if Kid Rock runs).

I do think we could flip the house though, which would be amazing. Total victory for Nancy Pelosi.

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
17. AL Senate race will provide no significant guidance about 2018 races.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 10:46 PM
Sep 2017

..and I'll provide exactly as much supporting data as you did.

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