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(CNN) President Donald Trump has always loved a good parade.
While meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron at the United Nations General Assembly in New York City on Monday, he praised Macron for his Bastille Day parade, which he saw during a summer visit.
"I do want to say that I was your guest at Bastille Day," Trump said, according to a transcript of remarks from the White House. "It was one of the greatest parades I've ever seen. It was two hours on the button, and it was military might, and I think a tremendous thing for France and for the spirit of France."
He told Macron he wants to have a similar parade in the United States to show off his country's military force.
"We're going to have to try and top it," Trump told Macron. "But I came back (from France), and one of my early calls were, I think we're going to have to start looking at that ourselves. So we're actually thinking about Fourth of July, Pennsylvania Avenue, having a really great parade to show our military strength."
Such a show of military pageantry, however, is often associated with militaristic regimes trying to prove their might and would be uncommon in the US, which has shied away from such large-scale displays in recent decades.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/19/politics/donald-trump-emmannuel-macron-white-house-parade-bastille-day/index.html
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)That seems to be good enough. Don't need this crap in DC
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)I'm sure military personnel will be jumping for joy at the prospect of marching up and down the square for El Douche
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I have a few friends and family in the service and they all think Trump is a fucking idiot.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)The sarcasm thingee.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I'm sure there are Trump Humpers in the military but I don't think many brass would want to do any kind of a parade. My gut is you won't see one come next July 4th.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)he is a legend in his own mind.
burnbaby
(685 posts)you don't have to go and you don't have to watch it
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The gussied-up militaryish uniform strikes me as highly likely, though. The tailor should make sure he gets paid up front.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)They'll let him watch it in prison.
TBA
(825 posts)He tried this for the inauguration. He was told no and got the flyover instead.
Typical inner city roads cannot handle the weight of large military equipment; especially DC (which was basically built in a swamp).
Yep... After looking...
"The then-president in waiting, Trump reportedly requested tanks and missile launchers at at his inaugural parade. The Pentagon turned him down, the Huffington Post reported.
'They were legit thinking Red Square/North Korea-style parade,' a source told the news publication.
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"Trump's request was denied, the Huffington Post said, because the show of force was considered bad optics. Having tanks roll down the streets of D.C. was also determined to be structurally challenging. Tanks like the ones Trump is envisioning weigh 100,000 pounds.
The incoming president wanted a flyover for his inauguration, but that was called off, the Huffington Post said, because of bad weather."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4896788/Trump-says-ll-giant-military-parade-July-4.html
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)It is pretty marshy.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)"Look, I can make my soldiers strut like a chorus line."
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He'll likely be blocked. Much as right-wing authoritarians might be wowed by this stuff, a lot of conservatives are already scared of his "the generals" and not at all sure they won't wake up some morning to find they've taken over. An unrealistic but genuine nervousness.
Disapproval of a military presence is not just a liberal thing, it is America's very deeply established tradition.
And 2018's midterm elecctions would come along very soon after.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Thanks for your very true comment!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Thanks, OrangeCrush.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Thosed of us old enough to remember the draft have a special appreciation!
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Python was way ahead of its time.
onenote
(42,694 posts)I hope that Trump's military parade idea is shot down.
But it's simply historically inaccurate to say that "disapproval of a military presence" is a "very deeply established tradition." Military parades, or at least parades featuring a military "presence" are not at all uncommon on July 4 in the US. Many of our early presidents, including Adams, Jefferson, and Madison, reviewed one or more July 4 military parades. And while DC hasn't hosted a July 4 military parade in decades, a military "presence" on July 4 remains a major part of the holiday in DC. For example, the Obamas hosted several July 4 events for members of the military.
Moving outside the realm of July 4, military flyovers are popular at sporting events and as part of other ceremonies.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)They are for the intimidation of citizens
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)...iirc, the streets would be ripped up by the weight of the tanks and shit. The city is not built for that.
I also believe that the top brass understands they serve a democratic republic and its Constitution, not some asshole dictator.
I've seen any number of 4th of July parades in my various hometowns, and of course there is a military aspect. I have no problem with that. You got your Boy Scouts, your local National Guard, lots of veterans, some jeeps, and sometimes a tank. We had some difficulty inserting the Veterans for Peace into the parades during the Bush years, but the mayor was on our side. Afterwards there's a helicopter the kids can climb into and so forth.
What you don't have is something out of the USSR, Red China, or Nazi Germany, with Dear Leader adorned in gold braid giving the stiff-arm salute. You know that's what Trump wants.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)he is clearly delusional.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,174 posts)Oh, heck, I wouldn't even require him to march. Commandeer a jeep (or one of the Shriners' little cars) and let him drive the distance. Make it a different theme every week. One week he can dress up like George Patton, the next like Napoleon, the next like Bozo the Clown...
kairos12
(12,852 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)All parades do is rack up city worker overtime, create garbage and waste money. And I am not just talking about military parades.
FSogol
(45,476 posts)Should we cancel all festivals, get togethers, and parties too.
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Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)So yes
FSogol
(45,476 posts)The purpose is to draw out the minority of DU members who are angry enough and naive enough to jump on the bandwagon, thus making the site as a whole look more like a bunch of unreasonable extremists and hypocrites."
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)cover it they can count on me never ever watching their channel again.
And that would be near impossible for me of all people, but a line must be drawn.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)orangecrush
(19,537 posts)and Hitler would no doubt approve.
doodsaq
(120 posts)...to represent the thousands of American soldiers lost fighting useless Republican wars.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)Him and his enablers frog marched through D.C. instead of a parade.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Of course in the beginning, I thought he would be gone by now. I still am crossing my fingers Mueller or pressure from the Russia investigation take him out by Christmas.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)we all know how this will turn out...