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turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:36 PM Sep 2017

Trump administration removes links to taxpayer-funded climate data on USGS website

In its relatively short time in power, the Trump administration has made no attempt to hide its disdain for studying, communicating, and acting on the threat posed by climate change. Rather than simply ignore the scientific information and research accessible to the public, however, the administration instead has chosen to remove climate data and references to climate change from government websites.

In the process, they’ve gone to “shocking” and “distressing” levels to hide the truth from the American public — who, it must be remembered, funded all this research — as climate scientist Peter Gleick explained to ThinkProgress. (You can find numerous examples of “disappearing data” from the EPA to the Bureau of Land Management to the Energy Department here.)

Of course, this ongoing effort to make climate change disappear doesn’t alter the reality of human-caused climate change and the dire consequences of President Donald Trump’s effort to undermine domestic and global climate action. But that doesn’t stop Trump appointees from even the most pointless efforts to suppress the facts or make them harder for the public to find.

Consider the U.S. Geological Survey’s “Science Explorer” website, which the agency’s homepage explains is where the public can go to “learn more about our science through a guided topical exploration.” If you visit that site, and click on “climate change” here is what you see:

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-officials-erase-climate-data-2a4e4fe81f96/


This is just plain BS....................I and everyone else have a right to know this information...............look no further than Arctic and Florida, Virgin Islands for example








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Trump administration removes links to taxpayer-funded climate data on USGS website (Original Post) turbinetree Sep 2017 OP
K & R ......for visibility..nt Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #1
Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree Sep 2017 #3
fuck the trump administration. a gaggle of science deniers. spanone Sep 2017 #2
You forgot something, we are a dictatorship now and the courts are being taken over Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #4
I think you're correct. defacto7 Sep 2017 #18
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #5
Feels like theft (in addition to censorship and much more). We paid Tanuki Sep 2017 #6
Ministry of Truth: This year we are at war with Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #16
scientific findings are true DBoon Sep 2017 #7
NdGT Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #15
They want to make 80% of the public think like the 20% defacto7 Sep 2017 #19
Not All Is Lost Me. Sep 2017 #8
Thank you! I thought that was some of the data Obama Frustratedlady Sep 2017 #10
They Did Me. Sep 2017 #11
K/R BadgerMom Sep 2017 #9
Don't forget Maria, she's going to kick ass DK504 Sep 2017 #12
K & R Duppers Sep 2017 #13
You can remove links, bring down sites, defacto7 Sep 2017 #14
they may not like it but it's still happening. Javaman Sep 2017 #17
Didn't I read back in December or January that the scientists copied the data to outside sites? hedda_foil Sep 2017 #20

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
4. You forgot something, we are a dictatorship now and the courts are being taken over
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

by sycophants who will enforce that dictatorship.

This has already happened, done, over.

Even Mueller can do little about it because of pardon power, either Schneiderman gets him or you best get used to this, big time, and MUCH worse.

Wanna hear something even more shocking, right in front of your EYES we are being taken over by a dictator and yet in 2018 we will have almost no increase in voter turnout, which proves that we dont deserve to survive.

Either we see a shocking increase in voter turnout in 2018 voting AGAINST the Nazis, or we deserve to be taken over by them.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. I think you're correct.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 03:36 PM
Sep 2017

I would call it a semi-dictatorship or a pre-dictatorship because not allthe plugs on democracy have been pulled yet.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
6. Feels like theft (in addition to censorship and much more). We paid
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:56 PM
Sep 2017

for this data, and we should have access.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. Not All Is Lost
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 01:17 PM
Sep 2017

“At 10 AM the Saturday before inauguration day, on the sixth floor of the Van Pelt Library at the University of Pennsylvania, roughly 60 hackers, scientists, archivists, and librarians were hunched over laptops, drawing flow charts on whiteboards, and shouting opinions on computer scripts across the room. They had hundreds of government web pages and data sets to get through before the end of the day—all strategically chosen from the pages of the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration—any of which, they felt, might be deleted, altered, or removed from the public domain by the incoming Trump administration.

Their undertaking, at the time, was purely speculative, based on travails of Canadian government scientists under the Stephen Harper administration, which muzzled them from speaking about climate change. Researchers watched as Harper officials threw thousands of books of aquatic data into dumpsters as federal environmental research libraries closed.”

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/rogue-scientists-race-save-climate-data-trump/

“Scientists are scrambling to download troves of climate data collected by government agencies that they fear could disappear under a Trump administration, according to Motherboard and The Washington Post. Efforts include saving the data on independent servers and making it available on websites. The concern is that once Donald Trump becomes president and takes control of the .gov websites hosting climate data collected by agencies like NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, that data could be whitewashed or made inaccessible.”

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13937938/climate-change-data-download-government-websites-donald-trump

“On Saturday morning, the white stone buildings on UC Berkeley’s campus radiated with unfiltered sunshine. The sky was blue, the campanile was chiming. But instead of enjoying the beautiful day, 200 adults had willingly sardined themselves into a fluorescent-lit room in the bowels of Doe Library to rescue federal climate data.

Like similar groups across the country—in more than 20 cities—they believe that the Trump administration might want to disappear this data down a memory hole. So these hackers, scientists, and students are collecting it to save outside government servers.
But now they’re going even further. Groups like DataRefuge and the Environmental Data and Governance Initiative, which organized the Berkeley hackathon to collect data from NASA’s earth sciences programs and the Department of Energy, are doing more than archiving. Diehard coders are building robust systems to monitor ongoing changes to government websites. And they’re keeping track of what’s been removed—to learn exactly when the pruning began.”

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/diehard-coders-just-saved-nasas-earth-science-data/

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
10. Thank you! I thought that was some of the data Obama
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 02:23 PM
Sep 2017

wanted saved before he left office because he was afraid it would be destroyed once Trump was in office. I forget the other areas. I remember they cross-indexed some information so that if his administration found it and destroyed it, they would have another archive with the numbers they needed to access the information. Just can't pull that out of my brain, right now.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
9. K/R
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 02:21 PM
Sep 2017

I'm faxing my reps now using Resistbot. I'm so sick of this. They won't allow the CDC to speak to journalists. Now this. My taxes pay for this information. It's taxation without representation to gerrymander, suppress votes, and assault the process. I'm seriously ready to take to the streets today. And the orangutan in the Oval calling out the "Rocket Man" in front of the UNGA was the end. Oh, and Graham-Cassidy. I'm stroking out.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
12. Don't forget Maria, she's going to kick ass
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 02:43 PM
Sep 2017

on the same area. Another 500 year storm 2 weeks after the first 500 year storm, a couple of years after another 500 year storm, of course there was the 500 year storm that ripped the East Coast apart. But hey, who cares right? This isn't going to happen in another 500 years.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
14. You can remove links, bring down sites,
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 03:33 PM
Sep 2017

defund research, block the Internet, scream, kick the wall....
But you can't make the facts go away. They will always be there. There will always be a way to get the truth and the data out there.
It's already a done deal.

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