Since when is kneeling a sign of disrespect? If anything it's a sign of hyper respect.

[lutherj]

People kneel in church when they pray, men sometimes kneel when they propose, and traditionally knights and courtiers would kneel before royalty. The way I see it, when Kaepernick et al. kneel for the National Anthem they are calling out the disparity between what the flag stands for in principle and what it increasingly stands for in practice. They are showing a profound respect for the constitution and equality and justice. And the flag. Trump and the alt-right know they are being outclassed, outmaneuvered, and outsmarted, and all Trump can do is sputter vulgarities.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Exactly. If I wanted to show actual disrespect for the flag I'd turn my back,

not kneel down. And anyhow, why is there such insistence on "respecting" the flag, and why is the national anthem performed at sports events, where it seems to be obligatory, but not at public gatherings of other kinds?

[lutherj]

4. I agree with everything you say. I guess my point is that sometimes you have to play the game

on their level. It seems to me the talking point should be that far from being a sign of disrespect it's a sign of deep respect for what this country truly stands for. They're not disrespecting the flag, they are disrespecting Trump and everything he and his followers stand for.

[RamblingRose]

2. That's exactly what I've been saying! n/t

[Baitball Blogger]

3. Lots of incongruities.

[FM123]

8. Kaepernick said he stopped sitting and started kneeling

after former Green Beret Nate Boyer told him that soldiers often take a knee to show respect.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. I'm fine with that.

I mean, why didn't anyone complain when Tebow kneeled during the anthem? The answer: Because this is a conservative framed issue.

[FM123]

14. Exactly - they always try to frame the narrative like that to suit them

[lutherj]

5. It's not an act of rebellion, it's an act of supplication. N/t

[Leghorn21]

6. "Hyper respect" - agreed:

[Srkdqltr]

7. I have been

saying this for the last week. It is more than respectful to kneel. DUH

[Leith]

10. I Said the Same to My Husband Earlier This Afternoon

This whole kerfuffle is just another opportunity for the reichwingers to express their outrage over nothing.

If they really want to get upset, I have a list of a couple hundred asinine things their fuhrer has said and done. I'll be happy to share it.

[lostnfound]

11. Agreed, it's a sacred thing to do.

[WinkyDink]

12. Ha! GMTA! I just said this in another thread, including the "prayer and propose" alliteration!

So I deleted it there, and I'll add it, minus the redundancy, here:

In football, quarterbacks take a knee to quickly end a play. The return team player takes a knee in the end zone to have the football placed on the 20, the agreed-upon starting line.

All Americans now need to emulate the brave vanguard, and "take a knee" during our anthem, or during a town hall meeting's recitation of the Pledge, to "quickly end" governmental and police injustice.

Let's get our nation back to our Constitution, back to our "agreed-upon starting line."

Let's really MAGA by getting her back to our true and decent values, the ones symbolized by stars, stripes, and song.

[yuiyoshida]

13. KNEELING is in Japanese culture, a huge sign of Respect...

彼は名誉でひざまずいている。

[davsand]

15. The image of kneeling to honor is old.

Goes back a few centuries at least


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[MineralMan]

16. Emiliano Zapata said: "Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas."

Translation: It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Taking a knee is not a sign of disrespect at all. Just the opposite. It's a gesture of respect. Always.

That has always been true. The players are showing their respect for the principle, not just a look-see gesture. They understand the principle of freedom. The flag, in recent times, has often become a symbol of oppression. That is what they are saying, I think.

[ksoze]

17. Tell that to Mance Rayder

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