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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:32 PM Sep 2017

What the stunning success of AfD means for Germany and Europe

The Guardian:

In 1991 Belgium had its (first) black Sunday, when the populist radical right Flemish Block gained 6.8% of the national vote. Since then many other western European countries have gone through a similar experience, from Denmark to Switzerland. And now, even the ever stable Germany has its own schwarzer Sonntag, and it’s blacker than most people had expected.

The populist radical-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party not only enters the Bundestag, the German parliament, but does so almost certainly as the third biggest party, with a stunning 13.3%, an increase of 8.8 percentage points according to the exit poll. Moreover, both the centre-right CDU/CSU and the centre-left SPD scored their worst electoral results in the postwar era, with 32.5% and 20% respectively. This means that AfD got two-thirds of the SPD vote, and 40% of the CDU/CSU vote.

Polls from German state TV, showed that AfD has its Hochburgen (strongholds) in the former communist east of the country. While it scored on average 11% in west Germany, it got 21.5% in east Germany, more than twice as much. This is in line with its results in the regional state elections, in which AfD also gained its largest support in the east.

AfD got more votes from past non-voters (1.2 million) than from the CDU/CSU (1 million) or SPD (500,000). In many ways this is an anti-Merkel vote, reflecting opposition to her controversial Willkommenspolitik towards refugees, which not only pushed some voters of mainstream parties to switch but also mobilised previous non-voters. The same poll also shows, for example, that 89% of AfD voters thought that Merkel’s immigration policies ignored the “concerns of the people” (ie German citizens); 85% want stronger national borders; and 82% think that 12 years of Merkel is enough. In other words, AfD has clearly profited from the fact that immigration was the number one issue in these elections.
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What the stunning success of AfD means for Germany and Europe (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2017 OP
AfD should be banned and physically removed from parliament. samir.g Sep 2017 #1
You realize that if there a standard for "acceptable" political parties... brooklynite Sep 2017 #2
Italy's fascist party started gaining power in 1990; fierywoman Sep 2017 #3

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
2. You realize that if there a standard for "acceptable" political parties...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:46 PM
Sep 2017

....someone other than you gets to decide what it is?

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
3. Italy's fascist party started gaining power in 1990;
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:56 PM
Sep 2017

part of the argument was that since the EEC was about to come together (in 1992), Italy had to protect what was hers instead of being nice and learning to share.

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