"Its Gods plan": North Carolina church helped members commit unemployment fraud so they could keep

[Miles Archer]

‘It’s God’s plan’: North Carolina church helped members commit unemployment fraud so they could keep tithing



https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/its-gods-plan-north-carolina-church-helped-members-commit-unemployment-fraud-so-they-could-keep-tithing/

According to an Associated Press investigation, the founder of the Word of Faith Fellowship reportedly encouraged church members to defraud the government so that they could keep filling her coffers at Sunday services, saying it was “God’s plan.”

In an interview, contractor Randy Fields related how he appealed to church founder Jane Whaley to allow him to scale back his tithing because his business was faltering, only to have the religious leader encourage him to file fraudulent unemployment claims in the names of his employees.

According to the report, Fields was not alone, with multiple other church members — and fellowship employees – also admitting they committed fraud in the name of the church. The report goes on to note that the allegations are being investigated by the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Detailing years of fraud, former church adherents estimated that the fake claims — including “some filed by the business owners’ wives and other family members” — would have diverted hundreds of thousands of tax dollars to the church over a six-year period.

[spanone]

1. put them in jail and let god come pay their bail

[maveric]

8. And tax the shit out of them.

[raven mad]

16. Perfect.

And stolen!

[tiptonic]

21. Wish

Wish I had thought of that.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's...

[saidsimplesimon]

15. Keep in mind

King James had a vested interest in my favourite version of biblical tales.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. I

dont
know
where
to
start

[CurtEastPoint]

4. That face. That hair. OMG. That's Gene Hackman from Birdcage. She looks like that Ann Lotz Graham

vile woman. What IS IT with these Krisschen nutjobs?

[SunSeeker]

14. LOL Nailed it! nt

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. A cross dressing evangelist!

[Scurrilous]

6. K&R

[Freethinker65]

7. WWJD. Who Would Jesus Defraud?

[NastyRiffraff]

9. Stop disrespecting religion!

and gawd. And women with weird hair. (What IS it with the big hair on a lot of religious women? Is it required by gawd?)

[MariaCSR]

10. One of the church members led a mob to beat up a gay person

Son of a bitch.

[Orrex]

11. Here's what William S Burroughs had to say about it:

If you're doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch,
Get it in writing.
His word isn't worth shit.
Not with the good lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

--From Words of Advice for Young People

[PdxSean]

17. That's a keeper!

[keithbvadu2]

20. Absolutely! They know they will be forgiven - don't care about you.

[bathroommonkey76]

22. That's from Spare Ass Annie!

For years I have loved this album by Burroughs and The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy.

People often ask me if I have any words of advice for young people.
Well here are a few simple admonitions for young and old.
Never intefere in a boy-and-girl fight.
Beware of whores who say they don't want money.
The hell they don't.
What they mean is they want more money. Much more.
If you're doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch,
Get it in writing.
His word isn't worth shit.
Not with the good lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

Avoid fuck-ups.
We all know the type.
Anything they have anything to do with,
No matter how good it sounds,
Turns into a disaster.
Do not offer sympathy to the mentally ill.
Tell them firmly:
I am not paid to listen to this drivel.
You are a terminal boob.

Now some of you may encounter the Devil's Bargain,
If you get that far.
Any old soul is worth saving,
At least to a priest,
But not every soul is worth buying.
So you can take the offer as a compliment.
He tries the easy ones first.
You know like money,
All the money there is.
But who wants to be the richest guy in some cemetary?
Money won't buy.
Not much left to spend it on, eh gramps?
Getting too old to cut the mustard.

Well time hits the hardest blows.
Especially below the belt.
How's a young body grab you?
Like three card monte, like pea under the shell,
Now you see it, now you don't.
Haven't you forgotten something, gramps?
In order to feel something,
You've got to be there.
You have to be eighteen.
You're not eighteen.
You are seventy-eight.
Old fool sold his soul for a strap-on.

Well they always try the easiest ones first.
How about an honorable bargain?
You always wanted to be a doctor,
Well now's your chance.
Why don't you become a great healer
And benefit humanity?
What's wrong with that?
Just about everything.
Just about everything.
There are no honorable bargains
Involving exchange
Of qualitative merchandise
Like souls
For quantitative merchandise
Like time and money.
So piss off Satan
And don't take me for dumber than I look.

An old junk pusher told me -
Watch whose money you pick up.

[druidity33]

37. That's from Hallucination Engine!

If you haven't heard the song "Words of Advice" by Material... well what can I say? You should listen to it! It's good!

[bathroommonkey76]

40. Nice version.

I have to say I prefer Franti's hip-hop version over the one you posted- Spare Ass Annie and other tales came out in 1993, I believe.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. RICO racketeering. Seize (forfeiture) her assets and that of the church too. . . . nt

[ThoughtCriminal]

13. God is the all knowing and all powerful diety that created the entire universe

but he needs your money.

[Major Nikon]

18. God's plan is for grifters to get more money

If you think about it, not much worse than any of His other plans.

[trusty elf]

19. ......

[rurallib]

23. Today's lesson: It is OK to steal if you give some to the church

Commandment #11

[TNNurse]

24. Not a church, but a cult.

[secondwind]

25. Omg 😲

[n2doc]

26. Let's see....not #1, not #2....

Ah, yes, #8 AND #9:


I'm guessing this so-called church doesn't think the commandments really apply to them. Or at least, not 8 and 9....

[PatrickforO]

31. I'd add one, because the dollar bill is her idol, and

number ten, because she's coveting tax money people pay in.

Sigh.

[GeoWilliam750]

27. More on this group here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith_Fellowship

[TexasBushwhacker]

32. Goid grief! They need to be shut DOWN! n/t

[PatrickforO]

28. You guys ever notice how 'Christer' rhymes with 'shyster?'

Christers are often shysters.

But not all shysters are Christers.

Sorry....this is just so pathetic, there isn't much else to say.

[Stuart G]

29. Here is a link to an LA Times story that the church used violence against members.

I read some,but, this story tells an ugly, graphic story of this church.,.Very upsetting...so there is the warning.
I do think the article is believable, of course the church denied it, just like the church has denied the story in the original post..

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-word-of-faith-fellowship-abuse-20170226-story.html

[classykaren]

30. This church needs to be punished,

[KY_EnviroGuy]

33. Check out their web site....if you dare!

WARNING: Your computer memory may be overloaded with massive photo files of big hair and monster XXX shoulder pads!

http://wordoffaithfellowship.org/

Damn thing nearly locked up my computer. Not much to see, just a lot of fancy-dressed white folks and some way out-of-date info, mainly do-gooders denying any guilt for a good variety of sins. I ain't gonna go there on YouTube.

[lpbk2713]

34. What would Pat Robertson say about this?

Never mind. Pat probably taught them everything they know.

[ProudLib72]

35. These are the fuckers who make it almost impossible to get unemployment

My wife is on unemployment, and we make maybe $25K a year. Sorry, but I'm all for doing to them what Cromwell did to St Peter's church in Drogheda.

[3catwoman3]

36. She must have the same...

...hair stylist as Callista Gingrich.

[Madam45for2923]

38. Everything they do is god's plan? Sounds like Ultimate Grifting Inc.

[Takket]

39. What happened to pulling yourself up by your bootstraps????