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Eugene

(61,813 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:01 PM Sep 2017

Chelsea Manning says she has been barred from entering Canada

Source: The Guardian

Chelsea Manning says she has been barred from entering Canada

Former US soldier and one of the most prominent whistleblowers of modern times posts letter to Twitter saying she is ‘not authorized to enter Canada’

Ashifa Kassam in Toronto and Ed Pilkington in New York
Monday 25 September 2017 21.00 BST

Chelsea Manning, the former US soldier who served seven years in military prison after instigating one of the biggest breaches of classified data in US history, has said she has been barred from entering Canada.

On Monday, Manning posted on Twitter a report from the Canadian government that identified her as a foreign national “who has not been authorized to enter Canada” due to prior convictions.

“So, I guess Canada has permanently banned me?” wrote Manning – one of the most prominent whistleblowers of modern times.


The letter, addressed to the country’s minister of immigration, said Manning had attempted to enter Canada at the official border crossing near Champlain, New York, late last week.

-snip-


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/25/chelsea-manning-says-she-has-been-barred-from-entering-canada
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Chelsea Manning says she has been barred from entering Canada (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2017 OP
Manning is a convicted felon comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #1
Too bad & too sad. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #2
well irisblue Sep 2017 #3
Selective immigration HoustonDave Sep 2017 #20
I knew someonewould go for this! Welcome to DU irisblue Sep 2017 #23
Go away Chelsea. cwydro Sep 2017 #4
does she have a passport? janterry Sep 2017 #5
I don't see an issue. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #6
Canadian Law. They don't allow convicted felons to cross their borders without pre-authorization. haele Sep 2017 #8
She's a Felon under US law that would similarly be a Felony under Canadian law. No entry to Felons. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #7
Sooner or later it will be Donald & co. not allowed anywhere. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #9
That's not fair JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #27
A little boat that leaks (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2017 #28
Does she think she should be treated as a hero ? JI7 Sep 2017 #10
Betray your country and there are consequences. NT Adrahil Sep 2017 #11
I work with someone who can't enter Canada because they were arrested having sex on a beach Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #12
"sex on a beach" left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #33
These two unfortunate souls wandered into a sting operation Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #34
Why are people always shocked when they hear about things like this? EllieBC Sep 2017 #13
Felons are barred without going through an exception process fescuerescue Sep 2017 #14
The process is called rehabilitation Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #15
Their country, their rules Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #16
Work visas, skilled or not are pretty easy to come by Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #17
It's really hard. I've done it. EllieBC Sep 2017 #19
Being disabled, I can't become a Canadian or Australian citizen. Kaleva Sep 2017 #24
Australia won't let anyone immigrate over the age of 57 leftofcool Sep 2017 #26
Well, that's against me too. I'm 58. Looks like Panama for me. Kaleva Sep 2017 #29
I could have told her she wouldn't be allowed in. Bradical79 Sep 2017 #18
She wasn't singled out. LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #21
What the fuck is her problem? Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #22
She wasn't getting enough attention this month Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #25
"astonished" jberryhill Sep 2017 #32
You mean to tell me that other countries have such laws B2G Sep 2017 #30
Canada doesn't screw around Jake Stern Sep 2017 #31

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
3. well
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:10 PM
Sep 2017

Their country, they can choose who enters. The article does say that her appeal is being considered. I'm sure there will be more to come on this in the future.

HoustonDave

(60 posts)
20. Selective immigration
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 12:33 PM
Sep 2017

"Their country, they can choose who enters." So Canada can but when the US does ...

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
23. I knew someonewould go for this! Welcome to DU
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 12:58 PM
Sep 2017

The custom & border patrol web site has a lengthy descriptions of what will make/keep you inadmissable for admission to the US. I'm pretty sure that a felony conviction in your country of origin would get you stopped at the US border. There is an appeals process as well. Just as Manning is thinking about her appeal, I bet you one glass of ice tea, there are people appealing their denials.




haele

(12,640 posts)
8. Canadian Law. They don't allow convicted felons to cross their borders without pre-authorization.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:29 PM
Sep 2017

It's an old law, too. Back in the late 60's, we'd be asked at the border crossing when we used to go up to Vancouver BC for a weekend soccer tournament my brother's team used to play in every fall.

Haele

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
27. That's not fair
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:56 PM
Sep 2017

I want him to take a slow boat somewhere, anywhere, and never come back again.

Some country somewhere has gotta take that S.O.B.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
12. I work with someone who can't enter Canada because they were arrested having sex on a beach
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:06 PM
Sep 2017

My sympathy for this individual is zilch, be grateful you're not in jail and go away.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
33. "sex on a beach"
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 04:47 PM
Sep 2017

My ex and I stopped on a South Carolina beach one warm summer night to have sex.

We put down a blanket,
and as we began to get naked,
a zillion little crabs came up out of the sand.

We grabbed our stuff* and ran to the car.

*
By 'stuff' I refer to clothes, etc.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
34. These two unfortunate souls wandered into a sting operation
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 04:56 AM
Sep 2017

There had been issues with bad behavior by crust punks at that beach which was right behind $5 million dollar homes, then they ended up in the paddy wagon with a bunch of crust punks and other scofflaws. If I recall correctly they were both charged with trespassing, indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, public intoxication, open container and resisting arrest. They also charged her with public urination because there was a damp spot in the sand they believed could only have come from a woman. They were able to get rid of all the charges except for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. She will go to her grave denying that she peed there.

EllieBC

(2,990 posts)
13. Why are people always shocked when they hear about things like this?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:09 PM
Sep 2017

It's like every time someone says they want to move to Canada or whatever other country and then they react with shock and anger that there are rules and conditions that must be met.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. Felons are barred without going through an exception process
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:35 PM
Sep 2017

Even a DUI will bar you from entry into Canada.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
15. The process is called rehabilitation
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:37 PM
Sep 2017

I doubt someone will be considered eligible if the equivalent Canadian offense is deemed to be treason.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. Their country, their rules
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:40 PM
Sep 2017

Canada is very strict on who enters- both for immigration purposes and just for visits.

I had a friend who was barred entry for a misdemeanor DUI that was pleaded down to wreckless driving 15 years before, and a ticket he just paid 5 years before for operating a commercial vehicle without a CDL. They said the DUI was the equivalent to a felony no mater what it was pleaded down to and the later ticket indicate he had not "rehabilitated" himself.

Canada is really strict.

Most people have never looked at what Canadas immigration requirements are. They are very strict. Most Americans would never qualify to move there as legal residents or to try and get citizenship.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
17. Work visas, skilled or not are pretty easy to come by
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:19 PM
Sep 2017

Landed immigrant status or family sponsorship can be pretty tedious. Of-course there doesn't appear to be anybody stopping people from just walking over the border and claiming refugee status at the moment.

EllieBC

(2,990 posts)
19. It's really hard. I've done it.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:00 PM
Sep 2017

My husband is Canadian and I am US born. He sponsored me for my permanent residency. Cost quite a bit of money, tons of paperwork, over a year wait (couldn't work or get health care in that time). They scrutinize every minute of your life and relationship and they aren't playing around.

Kaleva

(36,249 posts)
29. Well, that's against me too. I'm 58. Looks like Panama for me.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:27 PM
Sep 2017

They actually offer incentives for those with a guaranteed income. SS, SSDI, military retirement snd such. I'd still be an Americsn citizen.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
18. I could have told her she wouldn't be allowed in.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:50 PM
Sep 2017

This is pretty standard when convicted. Not the only country where this will be a problem for her too.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. What the fuck is her problem?
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 12:39 PM
Sep 2017

Yes, she is a convicted felon... Obama commuted her sentence, he didn't give her a full pardon

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
25. She wasn't getting enough attention this month
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:46 PM
Sep 2017

So what a better way to get some than attempt to go into a country you know you can't legally enter and then act surprised and oppressed when you get the exact result everyone knew you would.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. "astonished"
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:30 PM
Sep 2017

She had planned to drive up the east coast from New York to Montreal, then fly across Canada to Vancouver and drive down the west coast, stopping off to join protests against the far-right activist Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California, Berkeley.


I guess she was going to be looking for "really long term parking" in Montreal.

Manning’s support team have responded with astonishment to the suggestion by Canadian authorities that her prosecution under the US Espionage Act was equivalent to treason under Canadian law.
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
30. You mean to tell me that other countries have such laws
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:29 PM
Sep 2017

Regarding visitation and immigration? And we're OK with that?

I can scarcely believe it.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
31. Canada doesn't screw around
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:29 PM
Sep 2017

A buddy of mine was barred and refused rehabilitation to go on trips with his wife and son to see her family in Ontario because while his primary conviction was larceny he also was convicted of being in possession of a weapon (a knife) during the commission of a crime.

Apparently Canadian immigration told him that they could grant rehabilitation on the larceny charge but any weapons charge was a dealbreaker.

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