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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMIKE FARB of Unhack the Vote is about to blow up in the MSM get ready
Check his tweets. Whole precincts in swing states returning perfect 75/25 trump/clinton counts repeatedly on election day. Statistically impossible. Get on his Twitter and be horrified.
There's much much more and it's going to hit the front pages soon.
Our electronic voting machines WERE HACKED. Bigly.
Andy i wish you were here to see this. Hope you are helping from the great beyond.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)He is right on the money...
Takket
(21,560 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)Truth will out
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Now see what a HELL of a job they are doing with the country!! Democratic politicians had better raise the alarms NOW, before they do it again.
malaise
(268,930 posts)so they don't want to expose the shit that went down in 2000, 2004 and more recently last year.
And I'm not even discussing local and state elections. That's another full volume.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)I was thrilled to hear hc mention on Rachel that Virginia was getting rid of their paperless machines and hc said the entire country should follow
malaise
(268,930 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)I think more goes on around here, than meets the eye. I don't think it's just social media where they mine for information that can be used to churn up the base. Years ago, back when I still answered the phone, a polling company managed to talk to me to collect my opinions. Only afterward did I think of plugging in that co. name in Google. It was a company that gathered information for Republicans. And, now, we have a local polling company that was persistently sending emails, insisting that they wanted to know how we felt on issues.
They claimed that their surveys were marked to the individual it was sent to. Think about it. If they knew I was a Bernie supporter back in the primaries, what would they do with the data that would be helpful to Republicans? I think we know the answer to that question. That's why I don't have any desire to get into the discussions where Clinton supporters bash Bernie, or vice versa. It's time we realize that you have a lot of young Gremlin Republicans who get hard, just thinking that they can dick around with the process.
That's true about politics around here, and with community development.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)Georgians.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Though, the few Democratic Floridians that I get along with come from that area.
Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)We affectionately refer to it as LA, Lower Alabama.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)(Clearwater)...the machine would change the recorded vote from the Democrat to the Republican (in this case it was Castor vs Buchanan).
I stopped and called the ES. She had me escorted out and was going to "reboot" the machine. I demanded that machine be impounded, but the security wouldn't let me stay.
The hacking has gone on for years - ever since DREs were put in use.
As far as I'm concerned, Kerry and Gore and Hillary were all elected.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)who are ready to jump in and handle the legal challenges, if there are any.
If it's true that they have been flipping votes since Bush v Gore, I think it's time to talk reparations.
librechik
(30,674 posts)I know,, because I was in the MSM and bumped up against it many times.
and don't get me started about 9/11.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I can only hope, not for WWIII, but that this will see the light of day. Just a glimmer.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)even those of us on the outside remember the NYT burying the fact that Al Gore won the Florida vote, so as to not call into question the "legitimacy" of chimpy. Of course, that was after the Supreme Court installed him.
The NYT's complicity in covering up the theft of the presidency was soon followed by the disastrous Iraq war.
Covering up for illegitimate presidents never works out well.
Bottom line: the corporate media will cover up for the dump admin too. They don't want the peasantry to become the awakened rabble. That terrifies them much more than having an illegitimate, disastrous presidency.
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)We can judge that by the dramatic increase in calls, letters, protests, marches and so on.
The MSM has been trying to downplay the Russia scandal, but the reality is that it is getting so big that it is approaching a tipping point.
At least that is my hope.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)who thinks the venal, lying, criminal GOPee would stick at hacking voting machines? I think that was the plan all along when chimpy got HAVA passed.
And, of course, the phony xtians among them think anything is A-OK as long as they do it because they have gawd on their side. Justification for atrocities throughout the ages.
Botany
(70,490 posts)cilla4progress
(24,726 posts)I'm with you on this. 2004 was when I joined this site. I've been somewhat wrecked since. My most fervent hope is the widespread acknowledgment and acceptance of this truth in my lifetime.
Mister Ed
(5,928 posts)Do I recall correctly that public and press were locked out and not allowed to observe the counting there, due to a bogus "terrorist threat"?
Botany
(70,490 posts)What that screen shot MIGHT be showing is the use of a 3rd party
candidate vote total as a place to park votes before they are switched.
elias7
(3,997 posts)Zoonart
(11,849 posts)That is what. I have always thought. They learned that the ENTIRE election- up and down the ballot- was illegitimate and there is NO Constitutional remedy for that.
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)That's why voting machine supporters do not want printers. No audit trail.
Printers too expensive to install?
Tell that to millions of credit card point of sale systems.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)One of the arguments against a paper trail is that it is too hard to itemize/personalize a rect. Well, they do that every week at the grocery store with 1000's of random items.
Why is a printer necessary? Can't it be electronically verified like the phone banking transactions? Until every voter is online, why not have both options?
And finally, can we take pictures of our ballot and save it?
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)"electronically" is not reliable or credible.
That's why we have the 'hacking' issues.
It needs a physical printout paper trail.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)that could go right to your phone or email.
I've been early voting the last few years, and in my part of Ohio, get a paper ballot. But then I hear they don't even bother counting paper ballots, so I don't even know if my vote gets counted.
I won't stop voting, but seems like we have long odds for a fair election no matter who is handling the votes.
I used to follow www.blackbox.org
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The paper receipt has to stay with auditors- who always have to be bipartisan.
Lonestarblue
(9,972 posts)Even with a paper trail, its still possible to change vote totals during the aggregation of data from all precincts just enough (under 1%) to avoid triggering an automatic recount where paper ballots would be counted. Thats enough in close elections, as was the case in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. I have always believed that Republicans operatives hacked these elections, but it may have been with Russias help. Detroit seemed especially obvious with thousands not choosing a president, as well as broken seals on voting machines. Black voters overwhelmingly supported Clinton, and it is beyond odd that so many in Detroit would take the time to vote and yet not choose to vote for president.
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)"to avoid triggering..." - A matter of policy but hard copy printouts available when needed.
Not everything in life is fully audited but it still should be possible.
One thing emphasized in auditing class was that it becomes highly suspicious when someone wants to avoid/prevent an audit.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)requirements, not just because somebody gets "suspicious." as the other poster noted, if the margin of "victory" is 1%, or whatever the legal requirements are, the paper will never see the light of day, much less will there be a meaningful, comprehensive, state-wide recount. we need all paper ballots, hand-counted, all the time.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)were really millions of illegal votes for Trump.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)without help, without a massive trade-off, without selling the U.S. down the river.
dchill
(38,472 posts)Marthe48
(16,935 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)They'll believe anything he spews so long as he throw in these names, Hillary/Obama and adds in the Democrats and "fake" media.
dem in texas
(2,674 posts)I read that the variance on ballots in the key states called for an audit if the variance was at a certain percent, can't remember the number, but in all the key states, the variance fell just below the number that called for an audit. Everything was too mathematically even, that doesn't happen - ever.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)dchill
(38,472 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It's all downhill from there, a rolling right wing coup IMO.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)Lots of statistical impossibilities that both parties cover up.
hurple
(1,306 posts)ANy reality to this? Are you knowing of major outlets writing major pieces on this, or is it just wishful thinking? And, by major I mean CNN CBS ABC NBC MSNBC NYTimes WaPo etc... NOT Raw Story or Buzzfeed or Joe's News site...
crosinski
(411 posts)The First Amendment protects the right to protest, dissent, and petition government for a redress of grievances, but these rights cannot be exercised without a free press that provides information to the public. Together, these rights represent the constitutionally sanctioned method for the public to oppose government policies and activities and to seek change. The wisdom of this system can be seen in parts of the world where such a right does not exist, or is not honored, and violent opposition is the only avenue to express opposition or remedy injustice.
This is why we need the truth from the MSM. In parts of the world where this right doesn't exist, violence becomes the method to 'express opposition or remedy injustice.' So, yeah, I think Republicans and the MSM have pushed America into some very dangerous territory by refusing to cover even the possibility of stolen elections, and now by downplaying the 2016 election hack.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)diva77
(7,640 posts)hmmmm....
And as usual, why haven't elections officials spoken out about this??
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)The Chair of the Ohio Democratic Party doesn't think it happened...
The DNC Chair doesn't think it happened...
get the red out
(13,461 posts)There will never even be a Democratic Administration in the future, if we have any of those again, who will admit to this. It will be considered too "upsetting" for the average person to have confirmed as TRUE.