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RKP5637

(67,103 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 03:54 PM Oct 2017

Should Rex Tillerson Resign?

How much more is he expected to put up with! If he stays with Trump much longer, he's going to look like a fool IMO.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/01/should-rex-tillerson-resign-215664

In our combined 50-plus years at the State Department, neither of us ever witnessed as profound a humiliation as a sitting president handed his secretary of state Sunday morning.

Even if they’re playing good cop-bad cop, this is a shocker: Donald Trump is basically announcing that any negotiations with North Korea are worthless. This not only undercut Tillerson personally, but also undermines U.S. interests and the secretary of state’s sensible decision to talk to the North Korean regime. To make matters worse, all of this is occurring while Tillerson is in Beijing to prepare for the president’s trip to China next month—so the president kneecapped his own top diplomat in front of America’s chief rival in Asia.

Is this the final straw for Tillerson? The secretary of state clearly has not helped himself. Through his budget cuts, his focus on departmental reorganization at the expense of appointing assistant secretaries, his reliance on a tiny inner circle of outsiders and his maladroit use of the press, Tillerson has isolated himself within his own department. The Beltway foreign policy blob has already written him off as the worst secretary of state in history, and clearly others are hovering (U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley says she doesn’t want the job, but if you believe that, or if John Bolton make similar protestations, we have an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal to sell you).

Who speaks for America?
There are many peculiarities about how foreign policy is made (or not) in the Trump administration. Trump is the first president in our memory who has not at least gone through the motions of making it clear that his secretary of state is the sole repository of authority and the administration’s public voice on foreign policy. Not every secretary of state carries the same influence with the president. But never have the world and Washington faced a situation where there was no single go-to address (below the president, of course) to understand what U.S. foreign policy is, who’s articulating it and who to turn to for guidance or direction in trying to interpret it.
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Should Rex Tillerson Resign? (Original Post) RKP5637 Oct 2017 OP
He should never have been able to be in his position. Republicans are so bad at governing. The Wielding Truth Oct 2017 #1
THESE Republicans for sure, +1000. I doubt anyone who signed on with this Hortensis Oct 2017 #3
Will his wife channel her god again to let him? 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #2
Rex Tillerson is a fine man. A good guy. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #4
Yes. Immediately. (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #5
What's that old Republican excuse... "No one could have anticipated this". procon Oct 2017 #6
HE IS GOING TO START A FUCKING WAR, WHY ISNT ANYONE DOING ANYTHING? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #7
This is really as bad, but worse than the Cuban missile crisis. With JFK we had a sane and RKP5637 Oct 2017 #9
Waaaaaaaaaaay worse, with that we had two sane leaders. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #10
Excellent point!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #11
They should all resign and say "we didn't know it would be so hard" IADEMO2004 Oct 2017 #8
He can resign only if Vlad consents. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #12
He should have resigned months ago. Adrahil Oct 2017 #13
Pretty much the bottom line! We are so F'en screwed! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #16
They should all fucking resign. Iggo Oct 2017 #14
Rex seems rational.with nk we need rational..under trump honesty is in short supply dembotoz Oct 2017 #15
Considering that he should never have been appointed,.... WinkyDink Oct 2017 #17
trump and pence need to resign JI7 Oct 2017 #18
That, would clean up a lot of crap! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #19

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
1. He should never have been able to be in his position. Republicans are so bad at governing.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:00 PM
Oct 2017

They are too greedy to work for the good of the country. Kick them all out!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. THESE Republicans for sure, +1000. I doubt anyone who signed on with this
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

administration considers that the word "should" might imply honor, duty or public service. "Should" duty his nation require him to resign if he knew he'd be replaced with a competent professional? Of course. But my guess his "should" would be mostly about on his prospects of opening up Exxon's oil in Russia and other venal issues.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. What's that old Republican excuse... "No one could have anticipated this".
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:28 PM
Oct 2017

Yeah, right. The Stupid Party elected an unqualified, inexperienced, ignorant, buffoon for a president and they let him stock his cabinet with a troupe of bungling, self-serving aristocrats who act like the cartoonish Uncle Moneybags character from the Monopoly game. There could have been no other outcome. Tillerson was out of his element from the beginning and never should have been considered, let alone handed one of the most critically important jobs in the government.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
7. HE IS GOING TO START A FUCKING WAR, WHY ISNT ANYONE DOING ANYTHING?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:29 PM
Oct 2017

FUCK IT, i am going to watch the entire human race die and say I told you so

RKP5637

(67,103 posts)
9. This is really as bad, but worse than the Cuban missile crisis. With JFK we had a sane and
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

very intelligent president. Now, we have a buffoon who is mentally incompetent.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. He should have resigned months ago.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:18 PM
Oct 2017

Not only does he have no idea how to manage the State Dept, but he has presided over a department that is humiliated by Trump over and over. As SOS, Tllrson ha no authority. Nothing he says can be seen as U.S. Policy. He is nothing more than Trump's boot boy in the end.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
15. Rex seems rational.with nk we need rational..under trump honesty is in short supply
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

Sooooo if we can no longer trust the government and we obviously can not trump on anything....rex is lessor of very evil

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